maffew
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not sure I get it, so you 're saying you still sell pints? but have to ask for a 568ml of Guinness please?
a pint is a pint, and its ours
long live the Pint
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not sure I get it, so you 're saying you still sell pints? but have to ask for a 568ml of Guinness please?
a pint is a pint, and its ours
Frankly I don't give a f*** whether imperial is obsolete to you or not, because you're clearly incorrect. It's still in daily use in the UK hence it plainly isn't obsolete.
Cian
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Windows 95 is still being used; its obsolete.
crasher - no, its because the law is actually enforced here, in GB virutally anything is accepted as "medical grounds". In Nothern Ireland its the influence of the Presbyterian church thats kept it illegal.
But that's the point! It's legally feasible but the influence of the church means it's all but impossible.
Cian
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not sure I get it, so you 're saying you still sell pints? but have to ask for a 568ml of Guinness please?
a pint is a pint, and its ours
No, you ask for a pint, they sell you 568ml of it; avoiding the need to legally opt-out of the metric system.
Monkster - the current abortion laws here date from 1992 not 1861; anything from 1861 is obsoleted.
Cian
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Bullshit. Its effectively impossible because of the state correctly enforcing laws which were upheld by a majority of the population in a referendum. I don't agree with those laws but unfortunately that was the will of the populace. The same populace who voted to allow divorce - somewhat disproving that the church has influence on them.
The church has no influence on the state here. It may do on the people, but as church and state are separated - something the UK seems incapable of doing - that is a different matter.
The Concise Oxford English Dictionary defines obsolete as "no longer produced or used", hence it is not obsolete.
Cian
Well-known member
It is no longer produced. Same way the pint as a measurement has not been produced since the 1970s in the UK, making it obsolete.
No that's wrong. The law in Ireland is the way it is because of the Church. That's why the Govt framed the law the way it is and why the people voted for it (as the politicians knew they would). The influence of the Church is still strong.
In UK the opposite is true. The church and state are, as you say, intertwined. But in practical terms for 99 per cent of the population this has no effect at all. You're confusing influence with nominal power.
Eh? How do you "produce" a measurement?
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Yoda
English & European
Do your measuring jugs in Ireland have a mark for 568ml, 284ml and 142ml or are they the same as over here with a mark every 25ml/50ml? 
Da Man Clay
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As said by Grendel
"The Concise Oxford English Dictionary defines obsolete as "no longer produced or used", hence it is not obsolete".
Just because its no longer produced doesn't mean its obsolete.
Monkster
Ragamuffin
Dude it IS illegal for a women to choose to have an Abortion if she has NO medical grounds for it in EIRE
Your government however, buries it head in the sand and allows people to come from eire to have an abortion in the UK Legally
Your government however, buries it head in the sand and allows people to come from eire to have an abortion in the UK Legally
Cian
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Still bullshit. Check up on the wording of the various referendums and you'll see that the population here have frequently been offered (and accepted, at times) laws that horrify the Catholic church - including one which removed the churches legal status, one which allowed divorce, and the ones which allowed the current level of abortion.
The state has also enacted laws which have gone contrary to anything a government that was being influenced by a church would do, such as decriminalising homosexuality long before the EU forced certain UK protectorates (Isle of Man) to do so; anti-discrimination laws which went far, far deeper than UK ones did until this year (provision of goods and services, etc)
When you stop living in a little bubble where you imagine that we're run by men in badly fitting black frocks, it would be an idea to come here and see what Ireland post-1973 is actually like.
Cian
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Its illegal for a woman to have an abortion in GB if she has no medical grounds! The fact that the medical grounds are FAR less strictly enforced in GB is different.
And its entirely illegal to have one in Northern Ireland, which is in the UK.
(Grounds for abortion in GB:
* To save the woman's life
* To prevent grave permanent injury to the woman's physical or mental health
* Under 28 weeks to avoid injury to the physical or mental health of the woman
* Under 28 weeks to avoid injury to the physical or mental health of the existing child(ren)
* If the child was likely to be severely physically or mentally handicapped
)
And come here and park their shitty caravans on public land, I fuckin hate pikeys!
I going to OUTRAGE you all now and state that I couldn't give a toss whether my beer comes in pints or in a metric measure, so long as any change is not used by the breweries to slyly increase what I pay for it.
Cian
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Hah, over here the pikeys claim to be a separate race, with a separate language (its actually just Irish minus three hundred years development...) and "culture", etc, etc. They park their shitty caravans on public land here and scream discrimination when they're moved on.
bhaexpress
New member
Beg to differ but in fact the US and we do not have quite the same measurement system as we do. A US Gallon is actually smaller than an Imperial Gallon. Also, it's worth noting that cars here have the fuel consumption measured in MPG and not KPG.
Oh yes, I guess we're out of touch because we won't adopt the Euro either.
Oh yes, I guess we're out of touch because we won't adopt the Euro either.
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