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[News] London Bridge Incident
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Pretty pink fairy
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No, they're being ****ing stupid. The public who stepped in prevented further injuries and further loss of life. Would you be happier with a death count of a dozen and few dozen injured? It's selfish in the EXTREME to criticise the decision of any of the public to step in and try to shut down a wanker with a knife as quickly as possible.
Always look after yourself and to hell with everyone else, right?
where did i say that
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DF
Pretty pink fairy
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A huge tragedy only the heros who kept the stabber from killing more are to be lauded.
symyjym
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So; James Ford, who murdered Amanda Champion in 2004, was among members of the public who tried to stop Usman Khan at London Bridge.
Amanda Champion, 21, was strangled and slashed across the throat by Ford in a completely random attack in Ashford, Kent.
https://news.sky.com/story/london-b...ple-who-tackled-terrorist-usman-khan-11874132
To be honest people like this should be locked up and throw away the key too.
They say that once a dog tastes blood that they are deemed a further risk to the community and the same applies to humans.
Having an obsession with watching ISIS videos with suicide bombers, torture, execution and beheading videos is having a taste for blood too.
You cannot rehabilitate the taste for blood and mixing ISIS terrorists with the common killer for a day out makes no sense because surely the rehabilitating program and radicalisation program are two separate things?
Two people who have been involved and truly believed in the rehabilitation of prisoners have been killed and we know what Jacks dad has said, however Jack hasn't got the opportunity now to have a change of mind about what his belief was.
I do not believe that you can rehabilitate people who commit extreme crimes, just like I don't believe you can ever rehabilitate a paedophile unless they have the part of their brain that controls their actions taken out.
Amanda Champion, 21, was strangled and slashed across the throat by Ford in a completely random attack in Ashford, Kent.
https://news.sky.com/story/london-b...ple-who-tackled-terrorist-usman-khan-11874132
To be honest people like this should be locked up and throw away the key too.
They say that once a dog tastes blood that they are deemed a further risk to the community and the same applies to humans.
Having an obsession with watching ISIS videos with suicide bombers, torture, execution and beheading videos is having a taste for blood too.
You cannot rehabilitate the taste for blood and mixing ISIS terrorists with the common killer for a day out makes no sense because surely the rehabilitating program and radicalisation program are two separate things?
Two people who have been involved and truly believed in the rehabilitation of prisoners have been killed and we know what Jacks dad has said, however Jack hasn't got the opportunity now to have a change of mind about what his belief was.
I do not believe that you can rehabilitate people who commit extreme crimes, just like I don't believe you can ever rehabilitate a paedophile unless they have the part of their brain that controls their actions taken out.
Molango's visa
Molango's visa
I am inclined to agree with you.
It does mean, though, changing the procedure of 'setting a tariff' with rendering all sentences indeterminate, with a view to never releasing (since a 'cure' is either impossible to achieve or impossible to ascertain). Right now I am of a mind that this would in fact be the best plan for both crimes, since the consequences of 'remission' are potentially catestropic.
On the other end of the scale, did anyone see the picture of the mother who threw her baby at a police officer, resulting in the officer sustaining serious injury in her (successful) efforts protecting the child, reported in the Metro today? The sentence was....suspended. The mother (and I use that word loosely) emerged from court celebrating like she'd wone a tenner at the bingo. Meanwhile, what sort of peril has been handed to the child?
Some time you wonder whether lawyers spend years in training simply to have their common sense shitted out of them
(And after a spell at laws they become MPs)
symyjym
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I am inclined to agree with you.
It does mean, though, changing the procedure of 'setting a tariff' with rendering all sentences indeterminate, with a view to never releasing (since a 'cure' is either impossible to achieve or impossible to ascertain). Right now I am of a mind that this would in fact be the best plan for both crimes, since the consequences of 'remission' are potentially catestropic.
On the other end of the scale, did anyone see the picture of the mother who threw her baby at a police officer, resulting in the officer sustaining serious injury in her (successful) efforts protecting the child, reported in the Metro today? The sentence was....suspended. The mother (and I use that word loosely) emerged from court celebrating like she'd wone a tenner at the bingo. Meanwhile, what sort of peril has been handed to the child?
Some time you wonder whether lawyers spend years in training simply to have their common sense shitted out of them
(And after a spell at laws they become MPs)
Yep sometimes the lawyers get in the way of justice. People have got to be found overwhelmingly guilty these days not overwhelmingly innocent.
For lesser crimes I would bring back the village stocks and rotten veg rather than community service for minor offence rehabilitation, but that's another thread.
Rodney Thomas
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Personally I feel you come off as more of a dickhead than him in this exchange.
Interesting doc on C4 right now. I missed the first 30 minutes, but an hour to go.
The bravery of the public part of the story, is just beginning.
The bravery of the public part of the story, is just beginning.