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[Politics] Liz Truss **RESIGNS 20/10/2022**
- Thread starter Ethelwulf
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I guess we will have to be thankful to the BofE for stepping in. Albeit taking on massive debt that is going to have to be paid. The gilts are mental.
To be honest, this whole thing of the party leader being picked by the entire membership strikes me as stupid and recipe for disaster anyway. As much as I'm a democracy proponent, when it comes to picking the parliamentary party leader IMO it should be entirely within the hands of the MPs. Given that MPs are the ones with the power to create a leadership spill in the first place, you want to be sure the new leader has the backing of the MPs they'll be leading. I suspect if it had gone to MPs voting between Sunak and Truss, Sunak would have won - and not by a small amount.
rogersix
Well-known member
- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,202
not by a decent human being
If MPs who wanted Sunak voted for Mordaunt, then they only have themselves to blame.
rogersix
Well-known member
- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,202
indeed, it's genuinely scary
I do dislike it when right wing Europeans point at Venezuela as some sort of proof that socialism doesn't work. Your sort are always more reluctant to point out the success of Bolivia which has drastically cut extreme poverty and has the highest GDP growth rate in South America.
Or you could just ignore poorer South American countries entirely and instead look at a multitude of European nations similarly wealthy to ours, that have adopted socialist principles at various points over the past 2 or 3 decades with various degrees of success. It's just nonsense to say it doesn't work out so well. Of course it does if it is done competently. Not unlike free-market economies really. The point here is that we have been hopelessly mismanaged for at least 6 years now, and this has compounded the much-publicised larger problems that are out of our government's control.
rogersix
Well-known member
- Jan 18, 2014
- 8,202
the conversion rate is, by no means, everything
Bob!
Coffee Buyer
- Jul 5, 2003
- 11,636
I think the point I was making is they *didn't* vote for Truss. And, IMO, if faced with a binary choice where Mordaunt wasn't an option, more of them would have voted Sunak than Truss.
Indeed. No one really expects their non-state pensions to be paid each month anyway.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,025
when we look at European nations we have to include our own, we're all in same mixed market economy model, with aspects of state provision to differing amounts. i assume when some one wants a socialist government they want to go further, state intervention into general business and industry, otherwise they're just asking for a alteration on the present. i like to bring up the Venezula example, because it was held up by many socialist as a fine example (visits by Corbyn and fellow travellers), had so much going for it, utterly failed to deliver and impoverished its people. i also like to bring up the successful socialist country, China, because its done so by embracing markets, entrepreneurship, while maintaining the ugly side of state control. i dont see a socialist and liberal country, though i'll look at Bolivia.
Most useless leader this country has ever had. Thick cow.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,778
So once the MPs cut it down to the two, who did you vote for. I remember you saying you had no idea, so which way did you go, or did you abstain ?
And no aftertiming
- Oct 17, 2008
- 14,563
You’re going to give yourself a heart attack. I am genuinely worried about you.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Oh yes, they are. Scorched earth is exactly what they are doing. Truss admires Patrick Minford
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Call 999 if you’re genuinely worried I’m about to have a heart attack. Otherwise, shhh.
Yes, useless, but not the worst - that distinction still remains with Johnson.
Leekbrookgull
Well-known member
Wrong,Cows are useful unlike Truss.
