[Politics] Liz Truss **RESIGNS 20/10/2022**

[GT49er]

So how many posts will appear now?

Oh, none in this case it seems.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Shambles and embarrassing.

 

[beorhthelm]

Joking aside, I'd take that as a significant moment to call for an end to the monarchy. And I would absolutely love a GE to happen!

but it's what the people want isn't it?

it would be so much fun though, seeing who between the royalist Conservatives and left wing republicans express most confusion.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Quite.

The only conceivable time it happens is if people are on the streets baying for the Government to quit and they’re clinging on while unable to actually do anything to govern the country. We’re a very, very long way from that scenario.

Are we?

I’m not sure we are

 

[GT49er]

Joking aside, I'd take that as a significant moment to call for an end to the monarchy. And I would absolutely love a GE to happen!

That's what happened last time!

so how would people feel about King Charles dissolving parliament to bring on a GE?

See previous answer.......

This time I pressed the 'add quotes' button, which I hadn't noticed before (I didn't need it to multi-quote a couple of days ago!) The quotes are displayed in the wring order - but it won't let me change that. Ho hum - this new site is going to take more getting used to than RdZ's super-de-luxe tippy-tappy!

 

[A1X]

Are we?

I’m not sure we are

I am. The Government still has a comfortable majority in the Commons and can pass legislation relatively easily.

 

[beorhthelm]

I am. The Government still has a comfortable majority in the Commons and can pass legislation relatively easily.

this is the argument for not needing a GE.

 

[Bodian]

Was the 100 MP threshold introduced with the specific intention of keeping Boris out?

Just a thought.

Almost certainly. I suspect they are hoping that only one person (Sunak probably) will get to the 100 nominations - so no need to go to members.

 

[Eric the meek]

Almost certainly. I suspect they are hoping that only one person (Sunak probably) will get to the 100 nominations - so no need to go to members.

I didn't see the backing for Sunak, but now that you mention it......
It might need Mordaunt to do the right thing though - to not run. Hunt backed Sunak in the last leadership contest, so no issues there. Hunt can stay in the job in a Sunak cabinet.

 

[nicko31]

We're laughing stock, its pretty much been a seamless crisis since the Tories were allowed to govern in 2015 alone.

Just wait for it, a new dawn will soon be here and the last 12 years were nothing to do with them.

Reckon it will be Sunak unless it goes to the membership and it will be Mordaunt . They won't vote for someone of colour

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

We're laughing stock, its pretty much been a seamless crisis since the Tories were allowed to govern in 2015 alone.

Just wait for it, a new dawn will soon be here and the last 12 years were nothing to do with them.

Reckon it will be Mordaunt. If it goes to the membership and Sunak is up against someone white, he'll lose

You keep making this claim about race, but the party have been backed by its supporters with numerous ethnic backgrounds in powerful positions.

 

[nicko31]

Rarely do I use the very most extreme four letter word in the Anglo-Saxon dictionary, but, I'd happily use it for both of these C's.

Incredible Johnson has been on holiday, parliament has 22 weeks of recess. When you see people still support him, you can understand how Hitler rose to power

 

[A1X]

this is the argument for not needing a GE.

It would be, if that was what the issue was. However the issue is the changing of leader of the country without consulting the public coupled with (under the recent PM) a total ditching of the manifesto on which the Government was elected.

 

[Bodian]

Incredible Johnson has been on holiday, parliament has 22 weeks of recess. When you see people still support him, you can understand how Hitler rose to power

She's even sober in this one

 

[Dorset Seagull]

So there can only be a maximum of 3 left by Monday lunchtime with 357 nominating Tory MP’s. Wonder who they will be?

 

[Hugo Rune]

Christopher Chope needs a plugged in toaster lobbed in his bath as does Bonehead.

 

[BN41Albion]

She's even sober in this one

She truly believes what she's saying, too. Absolute crackpot

 

[nickbrighton]

We (as in 'we, the great British public') did not n fact vote for Johnson, although many people think they did. We voted for our local MP, who belonged to a political party. The party with the most seats at Westminster then has the right to appoint a leader to form a Government. So legally, the mandate is with the Conservative Party, not with any individual.

The party then chooses the leader who forms a government. Not the answer you wanted , probably, but you did ask!

This is a simple fact that a huge number of people "choose" to forget, or misunderstand when it suits them. How many times over the past few years has the argument that we voted for X as PM and not the new leader of the party.

Even the people who voted for Johnson in the last general election didnt vote for him as PM, but as their MP.
IIRC from the last time its something like 50% of our PMs since 1900 have been appointed due to a leadership change rather than a General Election, its possible that now its over 50% so possibly the most common way of becoming PM

 

[GT49er]

This is a simple fact that a huge number of people "choose" to forget, or misunderstand when it suits them. How many times over the past few years has the argument that we voted for X as PM and not the new leader of the party.

Even the people who voted for Johnson in the last general election didnt vote for him as PM, but as their MP.
IIRC from the last time its something like 50% of our PMs since 1900 have been appointed due to a leadership change rather than a General Election, its possible that now its over 50% so possibly the most common way of becoming PM

They only voted for him as their MP if they happened to live in his constituency.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

This is a simple fact that a huge number of people "choose" to forget, or misunderstand when it suits them. How many times over the past few years has the argument that we voted for X as PM and not the new leader of the party.

Even the people who voted for Johnson in the last general election didnt vote for him as PM, but as their MP.
IIRC from the last time its something like 50% of our PMs since 1900 have been appointed due to a leadership change rather than a General Election, its possible that now its over 50% so possibly the most common way of becoming PM

However at election time we're constantly told that we mustn't vote for X to be leader, whether its Corbyn or Milliband or whoever, and clearly many many people base their vote on who are the leaders of the parties, so its not surprising that at times like these people say 'we didn't vote for this PM', because the Tories whole campaign was about keeping Corbyn out.