[Albion] Liam Delap - Man City

[Swansman]

Unless there is any chance of signing him permanently, I can't see it happening.

I wouldn't be surprised if they sell him with a buy-back clause. He is very, very talented but will struggle to get the game time he needs.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Unless there is any chance of signing him permanently, I can't see it happening.

I wouldn't be surprised if they sell him with a buy-back clause. He is very, very talented but will struggle to get the game time he needs.

A Brighton-based Sverige friend says there is a popular trend in Swedish dramas for ‘overacting,’ talking more rapidly and demonstratively than people normally do in Sverige, as seen in something like the Netflix drama ‘Love and Anarchy’

True or not?

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

Unless there is any chance of signing him permanently, I can't see it happening.

I wouldn't be surprised if they sell him with a buy-back clause. He is very, very talented but will struggle to get the game time he needs.

Well - that's what they did with Bazunu - so it is a possibility

 

[Swansman]

A Brighton-based Sverige friend says there is a popular trend in Swedish dramas for ‘overacting,’ talking more rapidly and demonstratively than people normally do in Sverige, as seen in something like the Netflix drama ‘Love and Anarchy’

True or not?

Random... but yeah it is true, all Swedish actor schools are theater based, no specific ones for on-screen stuff, and it shows.

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

If Duffy and Clarke also leave we join up our thinking on replacements , do a mini defensive overhaul and get 2 left sided defenders in.

I mentioned this before - but I can't see Duffy leaving unless Brighton pay up the remainder of his contract - the guy is on £50K a week and nobody is going to pay him that much.

I saw Duffy playing for the Irish team in the Nations Cup - he is no longer able to play PL standard football. He caused countless problems in the Irish defence and Egan and Collins were constantly having to bail him out. The best defensive performance by Ireland was against Ukraine away - and Duffy didn't play - indeed Darragh Lenihan who replaced Duffy and who has just joined Middlesbrough after 10 years with Blackburn, looked elite in the Irish defence in comparison to Duffy.

The upshot of this - I don't think Potter can rely on Duffy (or Matt Clarke) next season - he needs at least one new centre back.(along with a left-sided defensive player) - and that is the reason why I am arguing that he should try and get Collins (apart from Omobamidele he is the best and has the most potential of what is available in English football - and Omobamidele is going to need a few months back after his injury before he regains the level he was at and starts to develop).

 

[Wardy's twin]

Really don't understand this 'anti-loan' attitude, agree it shouldn't be the first option but if the player is good then take him and play him. The argument seems to centre on it 'creates a gap' the following year (half empty) when in reality that one player might improve you for that season (half full) allowing time and opportunity to fill the gap permanently.

 

[portslade seagull]

Scored for the England U19s yesterday

 

[b.w.2.]

Really don't understand this 'anti-loan' attitude, agree it shouldn't be the first option but if the player is good then take him and play him. The argument seems to centre on it 'creates a gap' the following year (half empty) when in reality that one player might improve you for that season (half full) allowing time and opportunity to fill the gap permanently.

It's nothing to do with half full / half empty... it's to do wth not wasting limited budget resources... Tony (and Ashworh) understand this..

 

[Wardy's twin]

It's nothing to do with half full / half empty... it's to do wth not wasting limited budget resources... Tony (and Ashworh) understand this..

Well Ashworth has gone.....

Football is as much about the current season as the future , so if we were offered a player who would guarantee us 10 goals next season you would say budget says no.... really?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Well Ashworth has gone.....

Football is as much about the current season as the future , so if we were offered a player who would guarantee us 10 goals next season you would say budget says no.... really?

No brainer for the Albion model: budget would trump 10 guaranteed goals any day of the week

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Well Ashworth has gone.....

Football is as much about the current season as the future , so if we were offered a player who would guarantee us 10 goals next season you would say budget says no.... really?

Since there is no likely loan option who would guarantee 10 goals for us next season, especially an untried youngster, your point is rather moot. Your own eyes would see that we don't follow this practice. We buy untried youngsters to develop for ourselves. We don't loan them in to develop for other clubs. You can argue the point, but we just don't.

 

[GT49er]

No brainer for the Albion model: budget would trump 10 guaranteed goals any day of the week

We've no idea what the budget implications would be.

My guess would be that the budget implications would not be favourable. For exampe, £10M off the price for Cucurella, plus a £2 or £3M loan fee, plus paying all his (Manchester City level) wages, and it would clearly be a no-no. For us to take him on loan, I would think that the terms would have to be very favourable - basically would require Manchester City paying us to develop their player, not to try and use him as a make-weight in a deal on Cucurella!

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Do loans indicate that the youth development is inadequate (or not yet mature enough to deliver the pipeline of first team talent?). If not, then are loans blocking the place in the squad for a young player?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Do loans indicate that the youth development is inadequate (or not yet mature enough to deliver the pipeline of first team talent?). If not, then are loans blocking the place in the squad for a young player?

It's one thing giving a young player a place in the first team squad to fulfil some club-internal quota, thereby maybe triggering some level of contractual management bonuses. It's quite another thing to ask them to make any meaningful contribution to the EPL bottom line other than first via one or more loan spells elsewhere to further their development. IMHO, like

 

[Swansman]

If Delap comes it would be with a long term idea... perhaps that the club in that case might be the leading candidate to sign him if he doesn't feel like competing with Haaland for the next x/xx years and wants to move elsewhere.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

If Delap comes it would be with a long term idea... perhaps that the club in that case might be the leading candidate to sign him if he doesn't feel like competing with Haaland for the next x/xx years and wants to move elsewhere.

Maybe as a right-to-buy part of any Cucurella deal?

 

[GT49er]

Maybe as a right-to-buy part of any Cucurella deal?

Not for me. Do the Cucurella deal first, for the money we want. Any other negotiations to follow separately, of we're interested - but not as a loan.


(Just my opinion of course - I'm not trying to tell the club what to do!)

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Not for me. Do the Cucurella deal first, for the money we want. Any other negotiations to follow separately, of we're interested - but not as a loan.


(Just my opinion of course - I'm not trying to tell the club what to do!)

Highly unlikely we'll get the money we profess to want, seeing as how it's been pitched deliberately high on account of we never wanted to sell the player in the first place. But seeing as how it's pretty much a given that Catalan manager is going to get his Catalan man, and sooner rather than later, makes sense IMHO for the Albion to grab what they can from the wreckage

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Highly unlikely we'll get the money we profess to want, seeing as how it's been pitched deliberately high on account of we never wanted to sell the player in the first place. But seeing as how it's pretty much a given that Catalan manager is going to get his Catalan man, and sooner rather than later, makes sense IMHO for the Albion to grab what they can from the wreckage

Not really.

There is no deal to be struck here. Just a price.

Pay the price tag. Get the player.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Not really.

There is no deal to be struck here. Just a price.

Pay the price tag. Get the player.

Everything's negotiable tho eh? Especially when you're a poor boy at the EPL top table and an oil state is willing to throw you scraps