[Other Sport] Lewis Hamilton apologising for remark to nephew

[Jackthelad]

As a teacher I also teach children that families come in many different forms, including same sex parents, and that it is OK to be gay. I suppose you are the type who think I am therefore 'encouraging' kids to be gay?

Explain how we are 'pushing it down kids throats' rather than simply telling children that it's OK to be who they want to be?

Being Gay does not involve taking medication or even going further having drastic surgery, changing sex often does. A child does not know who they are, most adults struggle with finding out who they are let alone a small child but if some middle class "liberal" from Hove thinks it's so right on without thinking of the dangers then that's ok.

 

[GT49er]

As a teacher I also teach children that families come in many different forms, including same sex parents, and that it is OK to be gay. I suppose you are the type who think I am therefore 'encouraging' kids to be gay?

Explain how we are 'pushing it down kids throats' rather than simply telling children that it's OK to be who they want to be and not have to suppress their feelings/fear bullying and ridiculing the way homosexuals were in days gone by, for example? As someone else said, what is seen as 'normal' is continually evolving.

It's one of those questions of degree, isn't it..........

Tolerated, accepted, normal, encouraged, lauded - where are you on that spectrum, and which of those views do you condemn?

 

[spring hall convert]

Being Gay does not involve taking medication or even going further having drastic surgery, changing sex often does. A child does not know who they are, most adults struggle with finding out who they are let alone a small child but if some middle class "liberal" from Hove thinks it's so right on without thinking of the dangers then that's ok.

Don't you think doctors, mental health professionals and parents are better placed to understand the best course of action than a bloke on a football forum?

 

[e77]

Really not sure why he felt the need to put his nephew on his 5 million plus Twitter feed when, regardless of your views on the subject, it was plainly obviously going to be controversial.

I am sure he will continue earning millions though.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Really not sure why he felt the need to put his nephew on his 5 million plus Twitter feed when, regardless of your views on the subject, it was plainly obviously going to be controversial.

I am sure he will continue earning millions though.

Of course he will, he is one of the U.K.s and worlds top sportsman. A bit of light hearted and to be fair silly banter with his nephew is neither here nor there. But presumably he thinks he has upset people and has apologised. So now we can all move on.

 

[Baker lite]

Now, I think LH is an absolute ****, and F1 extremely boring, but that aside, how on earth have we got to the point that this is considered offensive?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-42486085#

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You are quite right Hamilton is indeed a first rate Twunt,but the fact that snowflakes are offended by this old guff reinforces for Me that fact that we have become a nation of *****.


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[Jackthelad]

Don't you think doctors, mental health professionals and parents are better placed to understand the best course of action than a bloke on a football forum?

I have a good friend whose brother became trans in his mid 20's, he went through hell with drugs and he had underlying mental health issues but Dr's have to be very careful now they have to push this agenda of instant sex change and this "there is no such thing an gender" bullshit we are shouted at by this SJW idiots.

Biology is completely be re-written and the facts are being ignored. This powerful SJW movement that has got such a grip now on our education system and every other system. They were even trying to push plans to allow adults to change their gender legally without a doctor's diagnosis, this is how crazy and out of control it is now. The pain my friends brother went through who actually views himself as a man again was hell, pushing this pain onto kids is crazy, this "progressive" politics has severe consequences especially to little children.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Lewis Hamilton is an amazing motor racing driver but as a person he is a tw*t.

What made him think putting a video on Twitter of his nephew in a dress whilst criticising him was a good idea?

Most of us would love to waltz into Wimbledon in casual dress and pay f*ck all tax but what annoys me most about Hamilton are the PR-driven scripted apologies issued purely and simply to protect the Lewis Hamilton brand which - once he's retired - I fully expect him to exploit to the max a la David and Victoria Beckham.

Unfortunately for Lewis he is not as media-savvy as the Beckhams and he may find himself in the unfortunate situation of having his sporting place in history tarnished by his social media faux pas. He would do well to give up Twitter and let his driving do all of his talking.

The reaction to the video is as I would expect - no celebrity can get away with saying anything anymore. Indeed, even the man in the street cannot make half the jokes they would have done 5 years ago and places like Facebook have a slavish conformism that even Stalin and Kim Jong Un would be proud of.

 

[spring hall convert]

I have a good friend whose brother became trans in his mid 20's, he went through hell with drugs and he had underlying mental health issues but Dr's have to be very careful now they have to push this agenda of instant sex change and this "there is no such thing an gender" bullshit we are shouted at by this SJW idiots.

Biology is completely be re-written and the facts are being ignored. This powerful SJW movement that has got such a grip now on our education system and every other system. They were even trying to push plans to allow adults to change their gender legally without a doctor's diagnosis, this is how crazy and out of control it is now. The pain my friends brother went through who actually views himself as a man again was hell, pushing this pain onto kids is crazy, this "progressive" politics has severe consequences especially to little children.

As painful as that scenario sounds for all involved, I'd be extremely wary of basing my opinion on a subject on one negative outcome. I know first hand of many positive outcomes.

Additionally, I think there's a lot of middle ground between the situation as you describe it regarding sex change and the situation as it actually is. Certainly from my experience, I really don't recognise anything like what you describe as 'instant sex change.'

 

[GT49er]

Of course he will, he is one of the U.K.s and worlds top sportsman. A bit of light hearted and to be fair silly banter with his nephew is neither here nor there. But presumably he thinks he has upset people and has apologised. So now we can all move on.

Neither her nor there? That is the whole bloody point, not what he actually said: it was there - on the internet, wasn't it, where it should not have been. It's coming to the time when professional sportsmen should have it written into their very lucrative contracts that they don't go anywhere near twitter, instagram, etc.

 

[BN41Albion]

As painful as that scenario sounds for all involved, I'd be extremely wary of basing my opinion on a subject on one negative outcome. I know first hand of many positive outcomes.

Additionally, I think there's a lot of middle ground between the situation as you describe it regarding sex change and the situation as it actually is. Certainly from my experience, I really don't recognise anything like what you describe as 'instant sex change.'

Exactly. And re a supposed 'no such thing as gender' agenda, that's b0llocks. The issue being tackled is gender stereotyping, not gender itself.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

I used to say footballers, but perhaps it is sportsman, and film stars, no-one has ever accused them of having a brain, and yes that is sweeping and no I don't mean all of them. But it has become blindingly obvious to me that they shouldn't be allowed near a social media outlet, it seems to be an Exocet waiting to blow, they really do show themselves as simpletons. But then... Donald Trump is top of that tree and he's a President. Things can't only get better.

 

[jasetheace]

One day the bots will be able to attach intelligence ratings to postings on threads such as this. Wonderfully, this will lead to those that managed to intersperse this thread with genuinely fascinating Fangio references being carried aloft through the streets or even crowd-surfed down the train from Falmer.

 

[pastafarian]

I think HT was just having some bantz. Hoping for a ban, I never had you down as generation snowflake. You need to man up. Etc etc.

You do know Herr T its not a massive secret this is your second account.
Could you not have at least given it a few more hours before bringing it into play.

quite funny though that a comment to cunning led to your ban here, considering you were quite high horsed and instrumental in getting him banned from the brexit thread.
1-1.....let the games begin.

 

[Sheebo]

Is it wrong that I can see and agree with both sides completely on this? Am I just a fence sitter?

Part of me thinks wow what a massive over reaction to a harmless thing most of us would probably have said (let’s be honest) as a joke etc and yes I feel like you cant sneeze without offending someone...

The other part of me thinks at least society is becoming more educated & respecting to diversity and people’s rights and it’s a good thing.

Either way I think it was a small lapse of thinking in terms of the little lads feelings but also Hamilton meant no offence or harm...

Maybe I’m just confused

 

[Hastings gull]

Is it wrong that I can see and agree with both sides completely on this? Am I just a fence sitter?

Part of me thinks wow what a massive over reaction to a harmless thing most of us would probably have said (let’s be honest) as a joke etc and yes I feel like you cant sneeze without offending someone...

The other part of me thinks at least society is becoming more educated & respecting to diversity and people’s rights and it’s a good thing.

Either way I think it was a small lapse of thinking in terms of the little lads feelings but also Hamilton meant no offence or harm...

Maybe I’m just confused

No, you are not confused and I imagine that your reaction is the same as many other folk. Of course it is right that we respect others' feelings and a good thing that we have become more tolerant over the decades to eg homosexuality/race.transgender etc. Some of the discrimination that people suffered must have absolutely soul-destroying -a friend of mine, many years ago albeit, had to keep secret the fact that he went on nudist holidays, convinced that he would have been sacked, had the truth come out.
My concern, and judging from the remarks on here, I am not alone, is that the PC zealots have become as extreme in their interpretation of what constitutes racism/homophobia etc, as the original discrimination against certain minorities was. Just as the Burnley match started, the chap next to me said that for the first time in ages, a team took to the field without one black player. He was simply making an innocent observation, but then felt the need to subsequently tell me on three occasions that he was not racist. How did we ever get to a point where fear takes over, when none should exist.

 

[Questions]

1. Read a bit of Marx, rather than using his name as an insult completely out of context belying the fact that you haven't got a clue about him or his beliefs. For better or for worse, Marx wasn't really all that big on individuality.

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He certainly wasn’t big on individuality. His best work was with Chico, Harpo and Zeppo.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Neither her nor there? That is the whole bloody point, not what he actually said: it was there - on the internet, wasn't it, where it should not have been. It's coming to the time when professional sportsmen should have it written into their very lucrative contracts that they don't go anywhere near twitter, instagram, etc.

What should be unheard because there is an element of the audience that considers whatever is being said to be unsayable? Do you have a list?

 

[e77]

Of course he will, he is one of the U.K.s and worlds top sportsman. A bit of light hearted and to be fair silly banter with his nephew is neither here nor there. But presumably he thinks he has upset people and has apologised. So now we can all move on.

Really don't care about Lewis Hamilton's future. Dragging his nephew into the public arena was at best ill judged.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Really don't care about Lewis Hamilton's future. Dragging his nephew into the public arena was at best ill judged.

Maybe. That’s for their family. And he apologised. What’s there to go on about?