Brian Fantana
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I believe we have different work permit regulations to Spain.
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Leonardo Ulloa
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I believe we have different work permit regulations to Spain.
brightonrock
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- Jan 1, 2008
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South american players are exempt under spanish immigration laws, I assume it's a heritage thing? Either way they can sign freely in spain or portugal, which is why a lot of top brazilians end up at porto/benfica or in la liga. After 2 or 3 years (i forget which) they can apply for dual nationality which then allows them to play in the UK.
Correct. Much as the rules for an Australian wishing to work in the UK would be different to if they wished work in Spain or France.
Brian Fantana
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Ah, I thought there was some special connection going on. Cheers for that!
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
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How come Premier League teams can sign African players and South American players and get away with it then? Do they get given a pass?
Brian Fantana
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They need to be either current internationals for their nation (and having played a certain % of recent international games) or have an EU nation passport, I believe.
Because they are mostly signing full Internationals, for whom there are a different set of exemptions to the work permit rules.
severnside gull
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the laws for movement of EU passport holders between EU countries are the same but the rules for entry and work for non-EU nationals varies between countries. Spain is much freer with people coming from spanish speaking nations just as we still are for commonwealth nations.
Ulloa is an Argentine passport holder but qualifies for a Spanish passport on the basis of residence but he still needs to apply and, just as here, that is not a 5 minute process. Given his circumstance of not being in favour with the new coach I am surprised he hasnt already applied. Maybe he needs a better agent?
Ulloa is an Argentine passport holder but qualifies for a Spanish passport on the basis of residence but he still needs to apply and, just as here, that is not a 5 minute process. Given his circumstance of not being in favour with the new coach I am surprised he hasnt already applied. Maybe he needs a better agent?
brightonrock
Dodgy Hamstrings
- Jan 1, 2008
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Either through dual nationality or by them having played a certain % of international games within the last 3 years I think. There are some other loopholes and technicalities if they appeal a failed work permit request but usually it's an italian grandparent or something.
Edit: beaten to it.
Brian Fantana
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Presumably the move can all be put in place, ready for his passport to be granted? If he has lived in Spain for the required length of time, surely there is no chance of him being denied is there?
do you not remember the tevez and mascherano saga?
the laws for movement of EU passport holders between EU countries are the same but the rules for entry and work for non-EU nationals varies between countries. Spain is much freer with people coming from spanish speaking nations just as we still are for commonwealth nations.
Ulloa is an Argentine passport holder but qualifies for a Spanish passport on the basis of residence but he still needs to apply and, just as here, that is not a 5 minute process. Given his circumstance of not being in favour with the new coach I am surprised he hasnt already applied. Maybe he needs a better agent?
We were after him in the summer so strange why not been sorted for the Jan window
So as the South American countries agreement is just with Spain and Portugal, and not the EU it's not covered by Kolpak
Brian Fantana
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Maybe he has only just reached the required length of time spent living in Spain?
brightonrock
Dodgy Hamstrings
- Jan 1, 2008
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So as the South American countries agreement is just with Spain and Portugal, and not the EU it's not covered by Kolpak
No idea! Tbh I only know a bit having struggled with it on FM when trying to sign amazing regens and having to loan them to belgian sides for 2 seasons in order to buy them. I had a bulgarian loaned out for 3 years in croatia cause he didn't qualify as an EU national. The "acquiring paperwork" stage took months.
Nathan
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- Jan 8, 2010
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Think i read somewhere that he has been in spain since 2008. Maybe it is 5 years before you can apply.
Albumen
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Does anyone know anyone who works for the Spanish passport office? If not, WHY NOT?
Gustavo Poyet se lleva a Ulloa al Brighton - MARCA.com
"José Leonardo Ulloa, delantero del Almería, será presentado próximamente como nuevo jugador del Brighton, equipo que milita en la segunda categoría del fútbol inglés y que entrena el ex zaragocista Gustavo Poyet.
El delantero argentino, que llegó al Almería en 2010 procedente del Castellón, se unirá así a otros ex jugadores de la Liga española como Bruno Saltor, David López, Íñigo Calderón, Andrea Orlandi o el ex internacional Vicente Rodríguez."
Roughly:
Almeria forward Jose Leonardo Ulloa will shortly be presented as a new player at Brighton, a team in the second tier of English football and which is trained by ex-Zaragoza player Gustavo Poyet.
The Argentinean forward, who signed for Almeria in 2010 from Castellon will join former Spanish league players Bruno Saltor, David Lopez, Andrea Orlandi and Inigo Calderon, as well as former international Vicente Rodriguez.
"José Leonardo Ulloa, delantero del Almería, será presentado próximamente como nuevo jugador del Brighton, equipo que milita en la segunda categoría del fútbol inglés y que entrena el ex zaragocista Gustavo Poyet.
El delantero argentino, que llegó al Almería en 2010 procedente del Castellón, se unirá así a otros ex jugadores de la Liga española como Bruno Saltor, David López, Íñigo Calderón, Andrea Orlandi o el ex internacional Vicente Rodríguez."
Roughly:
Almeria forward Jose Leonardo Ulloa will shortly be presented as a new player at Brighton, a team in the second tier of English football and which is trained by ex-Zaragoza player Gustavo Poyet.
The Argentinean forward, who signed for Almeria in 2010 from Castellon will join former Spanish league players Bruno Saltor, David Lopez, Andrea Orlandi and Inigo Calderon, as well as former international Vicente Rodriguez.
albionalex
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Quite a few Spanish websites are reporting he'll be unveiled soon.