[Football] Leeds owner calls for Premier League 2

[Springal]

Oh how my heart bleeds. If a club is properly run from top to bottom (like us!)

You are aware of our debts when we got promoted, right?

 

[mikeyjh]

He has a point though - In the UK, some championship games pull in bigger audiences than some PL games. Even the avg PL game pulls approximately 2.5x the championship audience (again, in the UK) so it just doesn't look like the EFL are able to negotiate a good deal.

One should always remember how important the pyramid is to the sell of the PL - The big 5 or 6 clubs do seem to forget that....

 

[Mellotron]

Bolton (Gartside) suggested a closed door PL, rather than PL2.

Leeds never proposed PL2 when they were in L1, so far as I can recall.

I don't have any issue with PL2 , so long as there is still promotion / relegation from the league below, but don't really see how it changes anything? Will any TV company will be queuing up to throw money at what is essentially just another rebranding of Division Two?

This, what would it be other than a glorified name change?

 

[Easy 10]

You are aware of our debts when we got promoted, right?

This is the stick the Palace goonsquad like to repeat ad-infinitum. But it completely fails to acknowledge the fact that an interest-free debt to Tony Bloom is vastly different from a debt to another bank or outside financial institution.

 

[Brovion]

His proposals will probably be for something like two 16-team PL divisions, cutting off the Championship CHAFF, and probably to pull up the trap-door. Same old selfish greed that we've heard fifty times before, that would ultimately kill off half of the clubs in the country.

That said, I doubt there is an owner in British football who knows more about TV rights than Radzziani. Maybe he has a workable plan, that doesn't shit on the lower divisions.

Still doesn't solve the problem of the split of the TV money pot. You've now got 32 teams all wanting a slice of a pie that is currently shared by just 20 teams. How do you divvy it up? And do you think the PL will actually want to share their riches with another 12 teams? (That alone means the idea is probably a non-starter).

 

[clippedgull]

Once the inevitable European Super League has been established he will get his wish but there will be far less money to spread around the remnants of the Premier League/Championship when SKY/BT re-negotiate the TV packages.

 

[blue-shifted]

Surely the point of this, from a financial point of view, is not that it would make loads more money (though being marketed as the premier league 2 might mean it would make a bit more), it is that has broken away from the football league. This would mean that whatever TV revenue it does make doesn’t have to be shared with the rest of the football league in the same way.

This mirrors the reason for the creation of the premier league.

My guess is that there would be quite a bit of support among bigger championship clubs (who’ll undoubtedly start going on about Rangers and Celtic as well). As ever, the problem will be how to convince the bottom half of the division who would stand to lose out hugely if they are relegated or demoted in order to reduce the number of clubs in the division.

 

[Springal]

This is the stick the Palace goonsquad like to repeat ad-infinitum. But it completely fails to acknowledge the fact that an interest-free debt to Tony Bloom is vastly different from a debt to another bank or outside financial institution.

So our operating costs were covered by our income? Correct?

 

[blue-shifted]

It’s not inevitable. Though that’s what the big clubs keep saying in the hope it will be endlessly repeated and become a self-fulfilling prophecy

Once the inevitable European Super League has been established he will get his wish but there will be far less money to spread around the remnants of the Premier League/Championship when SKY/BT re-negotiate the TV packages.

 

[Rugrat]

Once the inevitable European Super League has been established he will get his wish but there will be far less money to spread around the remnants of the Premier League/Championship when SKY/BT re-negotiate the TV packages.

That's what I see as happening ... not a question of if but when.

When that time comes I suspect a huge lump of the overseas rights will disappear and the value of domestic rights will be slashed too. Whereas today clubs are guaranteed £100M I'd have thought they'd be lucky to get much more than a 10th of that

 

[mikeyjh]

It’s not inevitable. Though that’s what the big clubs keep saying in the hope it will be endlessly repeated and become a self-fulfilling prophecy

Don't you sometimes wish they'd just go and do it though? Leave the English league to return to some sort of sanity? I think the championship is the 4th most watched in Europe and most of the clubs in it are p1ssing money right left and centre, sad really.

 

[Rugrat]

Don't you sometimes wish they'd just go and do it though? Leave the English league to return to some sort of sanity? I think the championship is the 4th most watched in Europe and most of the clubs in it are p1ssing money right left and centre, sad really.

This all day long

 

[A1X]

Premier League 2: This Time It's Personal

 

[Easy 10]

So our operating costs were covered by our income? Correct?

No - any Championship club making a push for promotion will not have their operating costs covered by their income. Thats where Mr Bloom steps in.

Whats your point ?

 

[HitchinSeagull]

His proposals will probably include removing the collective deal, its no accident he bought Leeds with his media background.

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[Da Man Clay]

His proposals will probably include removing the collective deal, its no accident he bought Leeds with his media background.

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Of course - which is what the majority of people on this thread seem to miss out on. It’s nothing to do with just a name change. It’s the ability to breakaway from the current EFL deal and negotiate its own. I would be surprised if it didn’t end up with a lot more TV revenue than it does now if that happened.

 

[Rugrat]

Of course - which is what the majority of people on this thread seem to miss out on. It’s nothing to do with just a name change. It’s the ability to breakaway from the current EFL deal and negotiate its own. I would be surprised if it didn’t end up with a lot more TV revenue than it does now if that happened.

The collective deal in L1 & 2 is 'peanuts'. Even if you took it all away dividing that up between the Champ clubs isn't going to materially change their finances (or have I missed a key point?)

 

[HitchinSeagull]

The collective deal in L1 & 2 is 'peanuts'. Even if you took it all away dividing that up between the Champ clubs isn't going to materially change their finances (or have I missed a key point?)

I dont think hes too worried about that, I suspect he wants complete control of Leeds TV revenue and to explore digital 'season tickets' PPV or screening on his own channels.

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[BBassic]

Of course - which is what the majority of people on this thread seem to miss out on. It’s nothing to do with just a name change. It’s the ability to breakaway from the current EFL deal and negotiate its own. I would be surprised if it didn’t end up with a lot more TV revenue than it does now if that happened.

It could be an interesting battle in a few years time if this breakaway happens.

Sky have already got some competition in the form of BT. If Amazon / Google whoever else decide to lump in significantly Sky could well find themselves with a lot of monied competition. At that point going in large on PL2 would likely be a feasible option.

 

[dazzer6666]

You are aware of our debts when we got promoted, right?

That was a calculated position taken by TB to get us promoted - huge difference being that it was his own money he was prepared to chuck at it. If we'd failed, I've no doubt at all the loan from TB would have been increased to fund them.