Tom Bombadil
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These guys always remind me of this
I get it's fun to call these types of people fascists, in a Rick from Young Ones sort of a way, but how do you respond then to actual fascism when it arrives. Your words have lost their meaningMore crypto fascists at this stage, admiration for US Republicans etc
Anderson ruffles a lot of feathers.If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
It isn't fun.I get it's fun to call these types of people fascists, in a Rick from Young Ones sort of a way, but how do you respond then to actual fascism when it arrives. Your words have lost their meaning
You say that but Ashfield voted Brexit 70/30, so there are enough ignorant plums there who are too stupid to see that he's a tedious, populist, opportunist who is more concerned about his loss of income than anything else.Least if he's moved to reform he won't have a seat in a few months
I don't think he is, but he certainly has admiration for those who are. Could say a pound shop fascist or a 30p one in Lee's case...I get it's fun to call these types of people fascists, in a Rick from Young Ones sort of a way, but how do you respond then to actual fascism when it arrives. Your words have lost their meaning
It's nothing to do with Rik. The danger is real.I get it's fun to call these types of people fascists, in a Rick from Young Ones sort of a way, but how do you respond then to actual fascism when it arrives. Your words have lost their meaning
Rubbish. You first have to check that it identifies as a duck.If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
If a dog is born in a stable it don’t make it a horseBut what if this probable duck was born in the hen house, is it then safe to call it a chicken or is it probably still a duck?
Cue that famous poster from the US Holocast Museum. Many of the signs are there is today's populist nationalists in Europe and the US.It's nothing to do with Rik. The danger is real.
Fascism is a subjective thing for sure but there are some definitions and warning signs that not only apply to Reform, they apply to the current Tory Party.
If you take Eco's essay "UR-Fascism" then Reform and the Tory right certainly comply with:
A cult of tradition
Rejection of modernism
Disagreement is treason (see post Brexit rhetoric)
Fear of difference
Casting enemies as similarly too strong and too weak (Braverman and Farage both do this)
Selective populism
Newspeak (The Sun, GBeebies)
That's 7/14. They have also subverted "appeal to a frustrated middle class" to "appeal to a frustrated working class". Again, see Brexit.
They don't all wear jackboots and salute. That's the inherent danger.
Anybody know what this country that he wants back looks like? Or can anyone give me a date from history that best describes the country as it was then that he wants now?If he gets his country back, there will be riots on the street
Thanks for mentioning Mosely. This is now going to be playing on repeat in my brain for the rest of the day.After starting out in labour, via a stint with the tories, Anderson is about to join the new British fascists. Heartwarming scenes.
Mosely went Tory, Labour, Fascist, so there is a small difference. And unlike Mosely, Anderson does not have the 'breeding' (or sense of entitlement to be precise) to presume to become leader.
The question is whether Sunk's reaction will be to follow his brain (and draw the tories back to the centre) or follow his other brain and attempt to 'out-****' the facists with new ludicrous right wing policies. My money is on the latter
Ah, but there's more to culture wars than immigrants.He's a deeply challenged individual that tapped into a very specific, imagined threat in the minds of his constituents. When pushed on ANY subject he just turns into "loud, shouty man" because he's either a) not smart enough, or b) doesn't care enough to work out a proper answer.
That said, he's an opportunist. As others said, he's likely to get in because Ashfield voted Brexit in large part because the threat of immigration, which as you can see, is a MASSIVE issue on the streets of Nottinghamshire...
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Yes, that sounds like a pretty good description of my understanding of fascism.It isn't fun.
What is your definition of fascism?
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.