[Football] Leandro Trossard **Sold To Arsenal 20/01/2023**

[Guinness Boy]

Feels like Leo and Agent are massively overplaying their hand.

If a decent offer comes in, he can go.
Clearly it hasn't.

The sensible thing to do would have been for him and the agent to go in and see RDZ and one of the senior managers and say he's looking for one last move, given he's now late 20s. We explain we don't like doing business in January. How about he gives 100% for the rest of the season, putting himself in the shop window, we'll exercise the contract option, ensuring we get a fee and then listen to any offer that matches our value in the summer.

Not hard. If Spurs or Atleti want him now they still would in the summer if he'd added another set of goals and assists.

The anti-football of both those sides suggests it'll be no fun at either compared to De Zerbi Ball so likely this is all about money again.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

He’s right though sadly. Bloom won’t let him rot while his value drops dramatically. What could have been a £30M+ deal this window now becomes £20M or so, or perhaps at least some more flexible payment terms

Really?

I think Tony knows only too well how dangerous it is to succumb to these tactics.
Far better to let him rot in the reserves and see how the land lies in the summer, than give him everything he wants now.

The issue here is Tross's expectations, not ours.

 

[jcdenton08]

My hunch is international loan until the end of the season. Maybe Spain or Italy

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

Or he spent weeks with a dysfunctional Belgian squad watching Hazard get his way every time, despite Hazard being a shadow of his former self, in a single city full of other top players and agents who could easily tap him up

And then he’s watched Martinez get a new and better job despite his massive under performance!

That old Belgium golden generation squad doesn’t seem a great thing to be part of. They all seem permanently miserable and off form. KDB is always miserable but he also appears to have lost his form recently. Lukaku, Hazard, Vertonghen, Courtois (brilliant keeper but odd and bitter character) - not great influences I’d say.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

The sensible thing to do would have been for him and the agent to go in and see RDZ and one of the senior managers and say he's looking for one last move, given he's now late 20s. We explain we don't like doing business in January. How about he gives 100% for the rest of the season, putting himself in the shop window, we'll exercise the contract option, ensuring we get a fee and then listen to any offer that matches our value in the summer.

Not hard. If Spurs or Atleti want him now they still would in the summer if he'd added another set of goals and assists.

The anti-football of both those sides suggests it'll be no fun at either compared to De Zerbi Ball so likely this is all about money again.

I have no issue with Tross going now, if the money's ok.
I suspect the issue is that the agent isn't able to convince Spurs/Atleti to come up with a decent enough offer.

Trying to force Tony to accept a lowball offer, is never going to work.

 

[The Wizard]

All this and I bet you he stays, he hasn’t seemed right even when he was at the World Cup he seemed very sluggish and easily frustrated.

Not one to go down the mental health route, but maybe he’s struggling with things we don’t know about, disappointing statement from the bloodsucker* aside we don’t know for sure what’s happened yet, I back RDZ stance but Tross could have things going on.

Bridges aren’t burnt, yet.

 

[upthealbion1970]

Such a shame it’s come to this for Trossard, he’s given us some truly magical moments in his time. I’ll be quite sad if its ends like this however ability on its own isn’t enough no matter how good he can be. He’s gone from one management style to a completely different one with RDZ at the same time the rise of Mitoma and emergence of Ferguson means for the first time he’s got proper competition to start every match. He’s managed to go from bagging a hat trick at Anfield in his first game under the new regime to being called out publicly for not putting in enough effort in a few short months, time will tell if he’s gone about it the right way or not.

 

[Springal]

Really?

I think Tony knows only too well how dangerous it is to succumb to these tactics.
Far better to let him rot in the reserves and see how the land lies in the summer, than give him everything he wants now.

The issue here is Tross's expectations, not ours.

His value drops either way. And we don’t have reserves since about 2005. The PFA will get involved if he trains alone for to long, and the club won’t want him near the U23s.

Maybe a loan until the end of the season

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The sensible thing to do would have been for him and the agent to go in and see RDZ and one of the senior managers and say he's looking for one last move, given he's now late 20s. We explain we don't like doing business in January. How about he gives 100% for the rest of the season, putting himself in the shop window, we'll exercise the contract option, ensuring we get a fee and then listen to any offer that matches our value in the summer.

Not hard. If Spurs or Atleti want him now they still would in the summer if he'd added another set of goals and assists.

The anti-football of both those sides suggests it'll be no fun at either compared to De Zerbi Ball so likely this is all about money again.

This is the approach any sensible representative would take. Given what actually happened I do wonder about the qualifications of some agents. Take Harry Kane and the mess of his contract extension and subsequent interest from Man City, this was mainly down to his agent’s bungling who’s only qualification for the job is being his brother.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Bet they all make up and he signs a new contact….

Imagine if this was the most elaborate overhyped contract renewal reveal ever.

Camera pans from Leo’s car on the Eurostar to show bloom in a Skoda adjacent. A wink from Bloom before the boot opens fully of reddies and Leo dives in. *

* needs work

 

[Seasider78]

You only need to read the first and last sentences on that statement to see what this is all about. We also know Trossard has these winter spells and slumps where his performances drop, maybe the training incident he used to get away with under previous management but is not being tolerated by RDZ who we know has upped the intensity of training.

As to the dirty linen points one thing RDZ has been since he joined is clear and direct with the club, media, fans and players and this is really refreshing as a fan and nobody is under any illusions about what he needs from them. He was clear and described what happened and I have no reason not to believe him and his view the players behaviour is not acceptable.

As for Trossard after all this sulking and unprofessional behaviour he may get his move but I think he is going to be in for a shock as to the calibre of club In for him and will probably end up at villa or West Ham.

 

[Justice]

Has it been reported that he went without permission?
My assumption was that he has the weekend off as he's not in the squad.

This was last weekend told he wasn’t in the line up for boro left training and went to Belgium also heard he had a fight with another player

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

The sensible thing to do would have been for him and the agent to go in and see RDZ and one of the senior managers and say he's looking for one last move, given he's now late 20s. We explain we don't like doing business in January. How about he gives 100% for the rest of the season, putting himself in the shop window, we'll exercise the contract option, ensuring we get a fee and then listen to any offer that matches our value in the summer.

Not hard. If Spurs or Atleti want him now they still would in the summer if he'd added another set of goals and assists.

The anti-football of both those sides suggests it'll be no fun at either compared to De Zerbi Ball so likely this is all about money again.

Suppose there’s nothing to say this hasn’t happened already and the strop is because the earlier offers aren’t high enough to let him go. Maybe if I kick off, things will happen, without thinking about the detriment to his value or desirability

 

[amexer]

The agent is getting a lot of stick but to be fair after managers interview it was a certainty that he or Trossard would make a statement. In both cases use of language may have exaggerated the situation.
Such a shame. We all know Trossard is not a player that runs himself to the ground and has received loads of stick on here because of it. However he has great talent making chances and space for himself and other players where it matters and will not be easy to replace.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

His value drops either way. And we don’t have reserves since about 2005. The PFA will get involved if he trains alone for to long, and the club won’t want him near the U23s.

Maybe a loan until the end of the season

Tony is an incredibly skilled negotiator.
He has turned these situations around many times before. I doubt there will be any need to exact any sort of punishment.

Tony will just make it clear that he will accept the downside of this situation before allowing himself to be forced to weaken his and the club's positon.

Trossard isn't strengthening his hand by his actions.
Sure he might get some extra cash if he sits it out for 17 months, but I would expect that period would do far more damage to his career and earnings than it will to Tony's.

 

[Justice]

Too many people are very good at putting 2 and 2 together and making 6. I too hope it is something that can be sorted out. He’s a terrific player when he’s in the right place. We shall see.

He plays well when the sun is shining come winter time and he’s absolute shite.

 

[atomised]

He plays well when the sun is shining come winter time and he’s absolute shite.

like a modern day Paul Brooker

 

[ROSM]

The Times reporting that we have him permission to go home to Belgium this weekend.

Could be spin and not saying @jcdenton08 info is wrong. Just what is reported by Chris Hatherall.

If I were the club and even if we hadnt given him permission to go abroad, I would let it be known unofficially that we had. It de escalates the situation a degreee and allows some calmer reflection.

It was alwys interesting to me that Tross always looked better after an international break (see liverpool away). Where he seemed to knuckle down.

This time he has come back down, fed up and unco-operative perhaps. Given there seems to be a previous examples of underperforming in training (the crofts video) maybe the coaches have tried arm round the shoulder before and its not worked and have found previously that a bit of a rollocking works better. This time clearly not!

 

[Clive Walker]

Tony is an incredibly skilled negotiator.
He has turned these situations around many times before. I doubt there will be any need to exact any sort of punishment.

Tony will just make it clear that he will accept the downside of this situation before allowing himself to be forced to weaken his and the club's positon.

Trossard isn't strengthening his hand by his actions.
Sure he might get some extra cash if he sits it out for 17 months, but I would expect that period would do far more damage to his career and earnings than it will to Tony's.

Bloom sanctions decisions but the decisions are made by other people.

People need to stop assuming that bloom uses his poker playing skills to his advantage on every transfer matter. The weird pedestal that people have created for him is false unless you think losing player of the season and entire coaching team was blooms plan all along.

 

[trueblue]

Bloom sanctions decisions but the decisions are made by other people.

People need to stop assuming that bloom uses his poker playing skills to his advantage on every transfer matter. The weird pedestal that people have created for him is false unless you think losing player of the season and entire coaching team was blooms plan all along.

I think when you look at the club’s progress under Bloom and everything he’s done for the club it’s hardly a ‘weird pedestal’. He’s a brilliant businessman. Losing top players and coaches has only happened because of the success.