Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊
[Football] Leandro Trossard **Sold To Arsenal 20/01/2023**
- Thread starter Zeberdi
- Start date
Trossards agent was the one that made it publicNot kept up with the thread in it's entirety, just got to #267 but RZD did just (basically) say 'f**k off if you're going to be a twat' to Trossard. My initial reaction was 'yeah say what you think, it's refreshing' but 5 minutes of reflection has made me think 'don't slag people off in public'.
London Irish
Well-known member
Hugely sad, this does seem like the end even despite the previous examples of back from brink like Dunk.
The agent circus appears to be about lowering his transfer price, and while we have a strong hand with the 18 months left, would we say no to a low ball ish deal that would result in him rotting on the sidelines for the rest of the season here?
Can’t help feeling the row plays into the agent’s hands. RDZ perhaps too honest to a fault but tough one. Fans will be grateful they know the true picture but will the commercial side be wincing at a few million being knocked off the price as a result? Perhaps, hopefully, it will make no difference.
I would say a pre row Trossard would have been worth up to 50 mill but who knows now, the Bissouma saga not encouraging
The agent circus appears to be about lowering his transfer price, and while we have a strong hand with the 18 months left, would we say no to a low ball ish deal that would result in him rotting on the sidelines for the rest of the season here?
Can’t help feeling the row plays into the agent’s hands. RDZ perhaps too honest to a fault but tough one. Fans will be grateful they know the true picture but will the commercial side be wincing at a few million being knocked off the price as a result? Perhaps, hopefully, it will make no difference.
I would say a pre row Trossard would have been worth up to 50 mill but who knows now, the Bissouma saga not encouraging
Shropshire Seagull
Well-known member
This is a more interesting story than "Spare" ...
Slum_Wolf
Well-known member
- May 3, 2021
- 796
maltaseagull
Well-known member
It's a shame but he does seem to have lost form since the World Cup.
If he has fallen out with the boss he needs to go sit on the bench at Spurs or Chelsea.
If he has fallen out with the boss he needs to go sit on the bench at Spurs or Chelsea.
B-right-on
Living the dream
My colon cleanse is more interesting than Spare.
Last edited:
NorthstandRacoon
Well-known member
Not sure what to think here, but, I'm defo on RDZ side. I do not like players who throw tantrums when it doesn't go their way. Shame, I really liked Trossard. We are absolutely fine without him though, weaker yes, but fine. Buzzing to see the new Argie. If he goes to Chelsea, he will get dogs abuse, and rightly so.
If any player started acting like a petulant child, I'd be in the f*** off camp.
If any player started acting like a petulant child, I'd be in the f*** off camp.
The Wizard
Well-known member
- Jul 2, 2009
- 18,401
Calling out one of his supposed star players for lack of effort and attitude is exactly what top managers do, if you don’t it sets poor standards for the other players/youngsters. There’s no point lying, he’s not been in training for days.Not kept up with the thread in it's entirety, just got to #267 but RZD did just (basically) say 'f**k off if you're going to be a twat' to Trossard. My initial reaction was 'yeah say what you think, it's refreshing' but 5 minutes of reflection has made me think 'don't slag people off in public'.
Its been patently obvious by his mannerisms at the World Cup and since that something has changed in his head, perhaps the ‘everest syndrome’ type thing where he’s reached his goal and can’t motivate himself now, it can’t be a coincidence he went to the World Cup in top form and came back looking like Dele Alli
- Oct 17, 2008
- 15,051
I like to think I have some credibility in the bank here - not a lot - but some. I can share a little on the training ground incident. This is from a club source, who I obviously can’t name, so you can either believe me or not.
Trossard was taking the piss in the training immediately after coming back from the WC. He was late and grumpy, deliberately losing sprints, doing stupid tricks and pretending to fall over during scrimmage sessions - just stupid stuff like that. Despite being told repeatedly by several coaches to focus and train professionally, he basically refused to communicate with the coaches in question. RDZ was watching all this and had a word with a “senior player” (my common sense guess would be Lallana or Dunk, but that is a guess as I say). He basically had a quiet word, Trossard told him to do one, which led to a little pushy-shovey. Trossard then pulled up minutes later with a “calf problem” and went to the treatment room.
As I understand it, this was all one incident. He then basically just left.
That was the first incident.
He was told he needed to come back for training/treatment the next day and didn’t want to until he got an apology from the senior player. He turned up late, didn’t get his apology, RDZ basically told him to man up and stop acting unprofessionally and he just outright left.
RDZ told him to report to the U23s for training and he didn’t.
Can also confirm he has now left the country without permission and the club have no idea where he is, although he appears to have gone to his home in Belgium.
Trossard was taking the piss in the training immediately after coming back from the WC. He was late and grumpy, deliberately losing sprints, doing stupid tricks and pretending to fall over during scrimmage sessions - just stupid stuff like that. Despite being told repeatedly by several coaches to focus and train professionally, he basically refused to communicate with the coaches in question. RDZ was watching all this and had a word with a “senior player” (my common sense guess would be Lallana or Dunk, but that is a guess as I say). He basically had a quiet word, Trossard told him to do one, which led to a little pushy-shovey. Trossard then pulled up minutes later with a “calf problem” and went to the treatment room.
As I understand it, this was all one incident. He then basically just left.
That was the first incident.
He was told he needed to come back for training/treatment the next day and didn’t want to until he got an apology from the senior player. He turned up late, didn’t get his apology, RDZ basically told him to man up and stop acting unprofessionally and he just outright left.
RDZ told him to report to the U23s for training and he didn’t.
Can also confirm he has now left the country without permission and the club have no idea where he is, although he appears to have gone to his home in Belgium.
Looks like a .....
One defence of tross in the ego stakes.
2 seasons ago Vs Brentford his Mrs was in the crowd and seemed very down to earth and unwaglike. (The game we won 1-0 with Leo scoring)
She was telling anyone that would listen she was trosses Mrs and she had their kid with her.
Quite a few people were asking her questions and she seemed very friendly. And bear in mind this is Brentford away so these were the geekiest, weirdo fans at the top of the loyalty points tree bothering her.
I remember at that point thinking how refreshing it was and that obviously the trossard family were really nice !
2 seasons ago Vs Brentford his Mrs was in the crowd and seemed very down to earth and unwaglike. (The game we won 1-0 with Leo scoring)
She was telling anyone that would listen she was trosses Mrs and she had their kid with her.
Quite a few people were asking her questions and she seemed very friendly. And bear in mind this is Brentford away so these were the geekiest, weirdo fans at the top of the loyalty points tree bothering her.
I remember at that point thinking how refreshing it was and that obviously the trossard family were really nice !
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
The WC was hugely disappointing for him though, and I hope the club did factor that in a bit before making these moves
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
Does sound a bit like he needed an arm round his shoulders after the WC disappointment, he may well have seen MacAllister having time off celebrating, thought it should have been him and got himself messed up. Not really making excuses for him but he obviously got himself into a bad headspace which has led to this dramatic escalation.
Totally agree with you. But this is not a spat between coach and player that has led to a transfer request. This is simply a player who is engineering a move.
Thanks for sharing this
Or that he had decided to move some time ago and that the WC was going to be his shop window. The interest didn't flood in, so he began to agitate for a move.
I don't see anything about the way our club operates to suggest a player who needed support wouldn't have got it.
- May 8, 2018
- 10,844
Unless he’s driving barefooted with a boot full of toblerone
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
I don't disagree that he would like to move up in the game, he's made that clear many times - but it's a stretch to go from there to this completely unprofessional behaviour before the transfer window had even opened.
I imagine he got himself in a very bad place where he didn't care about anything, regardless of the clubs efforts to offer support. I've seen it. I've experienced it, most of us have at one time or another. He just did it in a very high profile environment with a manager who found an early opportunity to show who's in charge.
Ah, just speculating, but I do find it hard to believe this was a calculated effort to get a move.
- Oct 17, 2008
- 15,051
He could be going to see Shrek in Dundee