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Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
8,052
Hangleton
Labour won't be JC's plaything and he'll take advice from aides. What's important to remember is his passionate left wing stance on the renationalisation of the trains and utilities is what the grass roots supporters identified with. Other policies can be relaxed in line with the middle ground support.

I'm frankly appalled at all the commentators and ex-Labour figureheads who have been so ferociously critical of Corbyn. We don't need to be told what's good for us thank you very much. We're quite capable of looking at policies and making our own minds up.

People are sick and tied of Blair/Clegg style "Great question, Margo" rentapoliticians.

Like him or loathe him JC undeniably has principals and policies that people like.

Yep. If you can't afford something...just print more money....
 




Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
Just seen a picture of the seven-bedroom farmhouse where he lived and saw details of the private school, where mummy and daddy sent him to avoid all those rough children from the council estate. It might be his roots, but these roots hardly represent those of the millions of labour voters.

:lolol: just checked that out. I guess it is what it is but he for sure had a privileged upbringing. I would be surprised if he wanted to change too much of it! Diane Abbott is now also on the top table. The person who raged against the kind of eductation her ne leader had bu then sent her kids to private school. Complete hypocrite. What is good for them is not good for others...despicable
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,280
saaf of the water
15,500 new members in 24 hours suggest your right. The more I hear people telling me that it's the death of the party, an embarrassment, how happy the tories will be etc etc, the more convinced I am that my vote went in the right direction

Time will tell, but I personally think that Labour will now be out of office until 2025.

Middle England, which decides the GE won't be voting in anywhere near sufficient numbers to get Labour elected.

People tend to vote for what they think will be best for them and their families.Sure lots of left wing Labour Party activists will love his appointment, but like it or not the majority of people won't trust this guy, and his chancellor to run the country.
 


Dandyman

In London village.
In the unlikely event we descend into a Socialist Utopia I may well consider leaving the UK ...

Any chance of Labour making that an Election pledge ?
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
20,584
Playing snooker
When and where is the Labour Party conference this year? I like conference season anyway, but the Labour shindig is going to be compelling stuff this year. Will be interesting to see if Corbyn takes it back to its roots of being a true 'conference' in the way they originally were - with debates and votes in the hall; or if he maintains the current process of stage-managed and fairly sterile policy speeches that all party's adopt.
 






Dandyman

In London village.
Out of interest are all labour voters socialists as well ?

Probably not but the thought of you in a menage a trois with Paul Daniels and Phil Collins in some cottage in the south of France must be worth a few thousand votes to Labour, at least.
 


Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
Time will tell, but I personally think that Labour will now be out of office until 2025.

Middle England, which decides the GE won't be voting in anywhere near sufficient numbers to get Labour elected.

People tend to vote for what they think will be best for them and their families.Sure lots of left wing Labour Party activists will love his appointment, but like it or not the majority of people won't trust this guy, and his chancellor to run the country.

I am still unclear why Labour think the country wanted to go more left wing after that election. This feels very self indulgent. It will be fascinating to see how it pans out. As long they don't win, that would truly be a disaster
 




Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
When and where is the Labour Party conference this year? I like conference season anyway, but the Labour shindig is going to be compelling stuff this year. Will be interesting to see if Corbyn takes it back to its roots of being a true 'conference' in the way they originally were - with debates and votes in the hall; or if he maintains the current process of stage-managed and fairly sterile policy speeches that all party's adopt.


Do you get to go then? I would take a day off to see that
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,280
saaf of the water
15,500 new members in 24 hours suggest your right. The more I hear people telling me that it's the death of the party, an embarrassment, how happy the tories will be etc etc, the more convinced I am that my vote went in the right direction

and conversely, my mother-in-law, lifelong Labour voter (and campaigned hard in Whitehawk where she lives to try and get Nancy Platts elected) has today cancelled her membership, as she feels the Party has now become unelectable.
 


GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
49,194
Gloucester
Just seen a picture of the seven-bedroom farmhouse where he lived and saw details of the private school, where mummy and daddy sent him to avoid all those rough children from the council estate. It might be his roots, but these roots hardly represent those of the millions of labour voters.
Those roots which he has obviously rejected? Was Tony Benn not left wing? - he had to fight to be able to renounce his peerage!

Your logic just doesn't work. John Major was a Brixton boy who left school at 16. No way he should have been allowed to be a Tory, was there?
 




Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
I said earlier that this is the most imexperienced Labour front bench. Apparently JC has appointed someone to one of,his top jobs who he has NEVER met. Wow
 


Dandyman

In London village.
Just seen a picture of the seven-bedroom farmhouse where he lived and saw details of the private school, where mummy and daddy sent him to avoid all those rough children from the council estate. It might be his roots, but these roots hardly represent those of the millions of labour voters.

He went to a Prep school but Adams Grammar is a state school.
 


GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
49,194
Gloucester
I can't quite believe that the Labour Party has elected JC as its leader - political suicide at its best. We are now likely to be light years away from another Labour government. This doesn't bother me in the slightest but Labour moderates must be in despair at this turn of events.
I think it should bother you - I'm just rejoicing that someone (or in this case over half a million someones) have just voted to upset the cosy Westminster apple-cart. Bring it on. Respect to all those that upset the apple cart by voting UKIP and SNP too - for too long we've just had two rival bunches of fat cats in Parliament.
 






Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,331
Living In a Box
Probably not but the thought of you in a menage a trois with Paul Daniels and Phil Collins in some cottage in the south of France must be worth a few thousand votes to Labour, at least.

Blind ignorance, Phil Collins left the UK ages ago, is that a trait of socialism
 


Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,386
Leek
Interesting piece in The I paper today stating that J/C only had 20 current M/Ps voting for him and let,s face it that will cause an awful lot of dissent,any threat of expulsion will see the story of Militant return.
 


Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
Where your parents choose to send you to school should not IMO be used as a stick to beat someone. After all it was not the individual's choice, but that of their parents.

And the Diane Abbott situation, espousing one thing for the people and doing another for her son?
 




Hampster Gull

Well-known member
Dec 22, 2010
13,465
I think it should bother you - I'm just rejoicing that someone (or in this case over half a million someones) have just voted to upset the cosy Westminster apple-cart. Bring it on. Respect to all those that upset the apple cart by voting UKIP and SNP too - for too long we've just had two rival bunches of fat cats in Parliament.

I get the lack of repsect for politicians, they have not excelled for a while. But wanting to damn the country with destructive economic and social policies isnt going to help society
 


GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
49,194
Gloucester
Blind ignorance, Phil Collins left the UK ages ago, is that a trait of socialism

I don't think anything in Dandyman's post suggested that Phil Collins hadn't already left the UK. Keep up!

There might be some squabbles over who has the hairpiece today though!
 


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