Labour win by election, Cameron receives a message

[Westdene Wonder]

I am not a political animal and have never belonged to any party, I followed my father in voting Labour until the time Labour supporters spat on nurses who ignored threats to strike.I then decided to vote for whoever seemed to lead the country in the best way for the majority.Despite my admiration for Thatcher when she saw off Scargill I could not bring myself to vote Tory so went Liberal.
I am amazed that after 13 years of Tony & Gordon who brought votes of Immigrants and the work shy and allowed the bankers a free hand resulting in our current serious situation there are still a sizeable number of Labour voters.It is also difficult to understand Lib-Dems who cannot understand what their party intended to do if they WON the election but could only do so much in a coalition.
The unions are now gathering themselves for massive strikes which of course if the party who they payroll are in power will result in our banks going broke and our savings being lost,I am fearful for my childrens future and cannot see a change for the future despite the example of Ireland.

 

[Tony Towner's Fridge]

Take note Tories. You are messing it up

It's a bitter pill that all have to take. 13 years of misrule and fiscal lunacy will not be sorted in a few months. Get the deficit out the way and some vestige of financial order in the country.
Let Milliband go back to reminiscing about his Dad taking him to the Stadium of Light as a kid or some other 'Blair like' bullshit vote-winning statement.

It's all a bit like blaming the person tidying up the mess of a wild party the day after the night before.

TNBA

TTF

 

[Pavilionaire]

Here's a question for you: Is there any evidence that this coalition is making a balls-up of the economic recovery?

From what I read and hear the vibe is the economy is doing OK, the FTSE's climbed 800 points since the May election, the public sector have got the message stop wasting money and Cameron/Clegg are still friends.

There's too much negativity and cynicismin this country. I think despite all the faux outrage and talk of the Lib Dems being wiped off the face of the map the coalition is quietly getting the job done.

 

[beorhthelm]

Indeed they must be. But not half as much as the Conservatives whose vote collapsed

the tory vote was very poor. but is it so bad it can be dismissed as an aberration? it was less than half the 1997 vote (remember, the one where tories were decimated) and little more than half the number of the votes since.

 

[vulture]

Take note Tories. You are messing it up

the message is the tories clearing up all the mess left by liebour

 

[Barrel of Fun]

People are bound to vote against cuts as they affect them, their friends, their (ex?)work colleagues, and so on and so forth.

No-one is going to be popular when it involves making people redundant or cutting back on their services.

It is all very well slating the current administration, but we don't have the figures to hand. The Conservatives, eventually, sorted out the last mess, so hopefully they can do that again. It would be nice to put the party politics and sniping aside to sort out the mess.

Sadly, we make nothing... nothing, so we are at the mercy of our financiers and bankers.

I remember when Northern Rock almost disappeared. One friend had a mortgage with them and was worried that he would lose the house. The other friend made a mint from trading shares and eventual bonuses. Not fair.

 

[vulture]

labour always f*** this country up the tossers f***ing hate them

 

[jimhigham]

Here's a seriously cynical proposition. Gordon may have been many things but he was also a smart political operator. He read the runes and realised that there was no way Labour could actually win the 2010 election. About 18 months ahead of this he goes on an economic "slash and burn" cycle of spending lunacy knowing full well that not only will he not have to tidy up the mess but that his successor will automatically become the bad boy in doing so. Result: the incoming government gets one-term to do some seriously dirty work before being punted out on a wave of unpopularity. In short, a long-term plan to ensure Labour's long-term prospects that had naff all to do with national interest.

I wish I didn't think this way. I used to be nice. The older I get, the more cynical I become...about all of them. I'd imagine the coalition are working on similar counter-strategies as we speak.

 

[Codner pharmaceuticals]

"racists and homophones" was a song once sang by the Albion to the (fake) burberry wearing population.

Do excuse me if I don't take the views of this electorate into consideration.

 

[Danny-Boy]

Yep. This bit ...



Ed Miliband admits Labour were wrong over debt and need for cuts | Politics | The Guardian

But Lord B, where do "Labour" go? They're not going to reintroduce Clause 4, are they? So they're not "old" Labour.

They've denied that they're "New Labour". "New Labour is dead".

So I think they're NEW "New Labour". That is "New Labour squared".

"Squared " has an interesting old meaning, it used to signify, "Corrupted, bribed, on the take". Quite appropriate for those being currently kicked out by the NEW New Labour Party for fiddling their expenses.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Labour is back on the map.

They achieved an outstanding 3,558 majority at the Oldham East and Saddleworth bye election last night on a 48% turnout. This was even better than their high water mark set at the 1997 General Election. The second place result for the Lib Dems was only attained by virtue of the fact that the Tories had scaled back their campaign to take pressure off the beleaguered Clegg and his duplicitous crew and shore up the prospects for Coalition survival.

The majority of people now fully understand the Tory agenda and how they are pursuing their ideology using the Lib Dems as political cover.

The public have real concern over the depth and speed of the austerity measures, job security, cuts to the police force, the future of the NHS, raising VAT and tuition fees.

It’s the worst of all worlds for the coalition. The Lib Dems have lost their credibility and there is considerable unrest with Tory backbenchers especially when their leader fails to support their own candidate at the bye election in order to support a coalition which is a million miles from its pre election promises.

It’s also interesting that now that he is under pressure, David Cameron is becoming very Bullingdon in his deliveries, especially at the despatch box. He’s clearly irritated by all those oily little ticks criticising him. And it’s only January 2011, less than 9 months in office. The real pressure is yet to come.

David Cameron doesn’t have any gravitas or charm. Tony Blair did.

You really do post a load of bollocks !

 

[Danny-Boy]

:

Here's a question for you: Is there any evidence that this coalition is making a balls-up of the economic recovery?

From what I read and hear the vibe is the economy is doing OK, the FTSE's climbed 800 points since the May election, the public sector have got the message stop wasting money and Cameron/Clegg are still friends.

There's too much negativity and cynicismin this country. I think despite all the faux outrage and talk of the Lib Dems being wiped off the face of the map the coalition is quietly getting the job done.

Interesting the bit about the FTSE.

The week before we invaded Iraq the FTSE had sunk to just above 3000 and it was generally reckoned that if it had gone below that all the pension funds etc would have had to sell on an emergency basis to protect themselves.

As soon as the invasion was announced it boounced back...wars are always supposed to be good for business..facepalm:

 

[Danny-Boy]

I am not a political animal and have never belonged to any party, I followed my father in voting Labour until the time Labour supporters spat on nurses who ignored threats to strike.I then decided to vote for whoever seemed to lead the country in the best way for the majority.Despite my admiration for Thatcher when she saw off Scargill I could not bring myself to vote Tory so went Liberal.
I am amazed that after 13 years of Tony & Gordon who brought votes of Immigrants and the work shy and allowed the bankers a free hand resulting in our current serious situation there are still a sizeable number of Labour voters.It is also difficult to understand Lib-Dems who cannot understand what their party intended to do if they WON the election but could only do so much in a coalition.
The unions are now gathering themselves for massive strikes which of course if the party who they payroll are in power will result in our banks going broke and our savings being lost,I am fearful for my childrens future and cannot see a change for the future despite the example of Ireland.

When Nick Clegg got the leadership of the Lib Dems a Labour-supporting friend of mine scoffed "Cleggism? Whoever heard of Cleggism?" But I think we are now. The Dutch half of Nick is coming to the fore.

Fear not, I think Dave 'n Nick are going to be the Ant and Dec of UK politics.