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abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,389
I’m changing my view of Starmer from being thoroughly uninspired to gradually seeing he has a quiet determination to shape labour into a party that will not only win this GE (the easy bit) but future elections. Like Blair, he recognises that Britain is predominantly centrist and that is where any party needs to be to deliver positive change. He doesn’t have the celebrity personality of Blair or Johnson but that’s a good thing in my book.
I just wish i was in a constituency that makes it worth voting for him!
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,453
Sussex by the Sea
just vote tory
It's 'Tory'.

As a political term, Tory was an insult (derived from the Middle Irish word tóraidhe, modern Irish tóraí, meaning "outlaw", "robber", from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit" since outlaws were "pursued men") that entered English politics during the Exclusion Bill crisis of 1678–1681.
 




Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
6,947
You can extend it beyond that if you feel like it. Hop over to the Tory thread for literally years of clownish, right wing incompetence or the Israel thread if you want to see the same people arguing over the same thing.
Or any of the Potter threads, RDZ threads, Trump and Starmer threads or many of the other numerous political threads …Don't think one or two threads on NSC have the monopoly on discussions going round in circles with the same people arguing ad infinitum.
 




















armchairclubber

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2010
1,658
Bexhill
You can extend it beyond that if you feel like it. Hop over to the Tory thread for literally years of clownish, right wing incompetence

Cant disagree with you there, think Parody Rishi put him and this Tory government to bed long ago.



or the Israel thread if you want to see the same people arguing over the same thing.

Not sure there is too much argument over there right now, it all sounds absolutely horrific. I'm sure everyone would want peace.

Somehow missed this - apologies if already posted.

Israel has a shadowy camp in the desert with horrific conditions


 




drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
23,610
Burgess Hill
It's 'Tory'.

As a political term, Tory was an insult (derived from the Middle Irish word tóraidhe, modern Irish tóraí, meaning "outlaw", "robber", from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit" since outlaws were "pursued men") that entered English politics during the Exclusion Bill crisis of 1678–1681.
I think it boils down to substance over personality. Johnson's reign should be a defining moment that personality alone is not good for the country.
 






abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,389
Cut and paste this from Sky news:

Sir Keir Starmer has said "wealth creation" is his top priority in an election pitch to the middle class and middle ground.

"The first step of my Labour government will be to create economic stability, which means getting a grip of the spiralling welfare bill that's gone out of control under the Tories.
"We will set about, within days of a future government, reforming work support to get more people into work."

Is he really leader of the labour party?😂
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,106
Faversham
I’m changing my view of Starmer from being thoroughly uninspired to gradually seeing he has a quiet determination to shape labour into a party that will not only win this GE (the easy bit) but future elections. Like Blair, he recognises that Britain is predominantly centrist and that is where any party needs to be to deliver positive change. He doesn’t have the celebrity personality of Blair or Johnson but that’s a good thing in my book.
I just wish i was in a constituency that makes it worth voting for him!
Steer calmer.

We have the dreadful Helen Olivia Bicknell Whately down here, a massive wrong-'un but with a 63% share of the vote last time. The website that knows suggests my vote is best located with Labour so I won't feel conflicted when I vote this time, at least.
 






rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
8,202
It's 'Tory'.

As a political term, Tory was an insult (derived from the Middle Irish word tóraidhe, modern Irish tóraí, meaning "outlaw", "robber", from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit" since outlaws were "pursued men") that entered English politics during the Exclusion Bill crisis of 1678–1681.
i know, slow day?
 
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