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[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......



Giraffe

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Lloyd-Russell Suspended by Labour and won't stand as the Kemp Town candidate during the election. Bit of a shock.
 








Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
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Sussex by the Sea
Jezza knows.....

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ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
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Just far enough away from LDC
She and her pottymouth are the reason Labour are only 1/16 for a majority.... without her they'd be 1/50.
Still, she's good for the punter.
I love how a working class northern woman gets you to come over all unnecessary
 
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armchairclubber

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Aug 8, 2010
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His support and lobbying for Apartheid Israel and their current genocide is out in the open and tweets will be saved in the "Way back" machine..

Thie fact that this sort of candidate being welcomed into the Labour Party tells you what sort of cesspit it is becoming.

Ties in with Rayner comments of rebuilding Gaza (at least for the Palestinians). Anyone who believes that, or laughs at this, is blind.

He's a well connected Zionist (who isn't even Jewish), fingers in pies. Repulsive.
 






ROSM

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Just far enough away from LDC
Btw Iain Dale the broadcaster has abandoned his attempt to become the tory candidate for Tunbridge Wells after (checks notes) a clip emerges of him saying he 'never liked the place' and would 'happily live somewhere else'
 




FatSuperman

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This wastage and bloating goes for the NHS too - world's 6th largest employer - where does the money go? (BTW my wife works for the NHS and so sees the wastage first hand)

I agree with you, there is a huge amount of waste - my wife also in the NHS. I on the other hand work for a multi-billion corp, and the waste in the business is horrendous - seems much worse than what's going on in the NHS trust my wife works for. In the business I work for there is an eye-watering amount of waste... wasted product, wasted effort, flagrant misuse of capital, duplication of cost, services, people... everything you can think of.

Perhaps it's simply the case that it's really hard to be efficient in the real world. In my experience the things that actually make a difference on this topic are not simply 'better organisation', but in fact tend to be cultural. If you can get everybody to truly believe that we should be frugal, and look after our resources carefully, then you make a difference. Sadly, most organisations think you can just print out a list of principles saying something like 'treat every penny like your own' and that'll do the job.
 




schmunk

Why oh why oh why?
Jan 19, 2018
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no, he says something you want to hear*. but his argument leads to taxing our assets which is our pensions and savings, which feeds investments in the economy. so yeah, you'd probably shift the burden of tax at the cost of reducing investment and shrinking the economy.

*he keeps mixing income and wealth, to make it seem like it doesn't matter. countries tax income as the broadest and most reliable tax base, if assets are the focus of tax base, when they fall in value your budget is fubar'd. he gives a nice popular reference of Sunak, ignoring the wealth he refers to is in foreign companies, which we dont have any claim over. its presented as so easy to do, just tax wealth, why hasn't anyone thought of that before?
I switched it off when he started saying that "most of Sunak's income is capital gains", which is just plain wrong.

He's right that they will probably have a passive income of around 5%, but in reality the vast majority of their wealth is tied up in Infosys shares, which provide income as dividends (ca. 4.5% p.a. based on most recent figures). There's no mechanism for these to be converted into 'gains' and avoid taxation. Sell the shares to realise cash (potentially taxable as capital gains) and they lose the right to receive the dividends.
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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Crawley
Sure they do, and we need (controlled )immigration.

But NETT inward migration of 800,000 people a year is not (IMO) sustainable.
Depends on the birthrate, and the ability to integrate.
There is no number that is too big or too small independent of other factors.
 










ROSM

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Diane allowed to stand after Starmer gives in to pressure.
A sign for the future.
So if she had been barred you would have said he was treating her shabbily. If it had never come to light you would have said how can she get away with no investigation. And now you are saying he is giving in.

And all of this, despite it being made clear over and over again, that the leader cannot involve himself in disciplinary matters
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Btw Iain Dale the broadcaster has abandoned his attempt to become the tory candidate for Tunbridge Wells after (checks notes) a clip emerges of him saying he 'never liked the place' and would 'happily live somewhere else'
The footage of him beating up an old protestor on Brighton seafront is also doing the rounds on social media. I wonder if he can get his old job at LBC back, or will he end up on GBeebies?
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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So the claims that DA had been banned from standing as a candidate by Starmer and that LRM had been 'purged' by Starmer, which have managed to keep the two extreme political factions of NSC both furious and celebratory (and often both) over the last couple of days have turned out to be total baseless :shit:

Well I'm stunned :laugh:
 


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