[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

[rippleman]

Points of view again isn't it. Same situation my dad leaves me £100k in his will, I only receive £60k so I've been "taxed" 40%. Whether I've earned it or not is immaterial, that's a moralistic point of view, but like it or not between my father leaving me £100k and me receiving it I've been taxed £40k. It's just semantics again we're arguing a point where it really doesn't matter who the taxee is be it a logical estate or a real person, in the end the result is the same and the treasury gets it's money.

That's not the way Wills are typically worded. Have a look at your dad's Will.

You can use your "moralistic" argument for any tax. Why should the Treasury take 20% of my wages under PAYE? Why should the Treasury take 28% Capital Gains Tax when I sold my second home for a £500K profit?

Of course the treasury gets the money. It's where all tax goes. To be spent on nice things like the NHS, schools and suchlike.

Are you envisioning some kind of utopian society where nobody pays any tax on anything ever?

 

[nevergoagain]

That's not the way Wills are typically worded. Have a look at your dad's Will.

You can use your "moralistic" argument for any tax. Why should the Treasury take 20% of my wages under PAYE? Why should the Treasury take 28% Capital Gains Tax when I sold my second home for a £500K profit?

Of course the treasury gets the money. It's where all tax goes. To be spent on nice things like the NHS, schools and suchlike.

Are you envisioning some kind of utopian society where nobody pays any tax on anything ever?

Yes of course, that's exactly what I was saying.

 

[rippleman]

Yes, and a living person pays the bill.

YES! A living person has to pay the IHT to the Treasury.

Dead people and cats have struggled to do it in the past. So HMRC put in place new rules banning the deceased and cats and insisted it has to be a living person that writes the cheque or does the bank transfer.

 

[Is it PotG?]

YES! A living person has to pay the IHT to the Treasury.

Thank you!

Chances are, that person may be working.

 

[rippleman]

Thank you!

Chances are, that person may be working.

And? That person may well be a solicitor. They work. And your point is?

But I've decided not to play cat to your mouse any longer!

I know full well the political point you are trying to score here but Starmer never said that IHT wouldn't be increased for "working people" did he? If he has, I'm sure you will provide a link.

 

[pb21]

Given the activity on this thread I actually though there might be a meltdown about to start, but instead its a meltdown about semantics & metaphysics.

 

[nevergoagain]

Labour councillor suspended after appearing to say rioters' throats should be cutpublished at 13:43
13:43Breaking​

A Labour councillor has been suspended by the party after a video circulating online appeared to show that the throats of rioters should be cut at a counter demonstration last night.

Ricky Jones, the Dartford Borough councillor, could also appear to be heard saying in the video that we need "get rid of them all", the PA news agency reported.

A Labour Party spokesperson says "this behaviour is completely unacceptable and it will not be tolerated".

The PA news agency understands that Jones has been administratively suspended and the whip has been removed, which means he can no longer be called a Labour councillor.

Suspended Labour councillor arrested after video emerges urging crowd to cut throats

Party says speech in Walthamstow ‘completely unacceptable’ as a man in his 50s is arrested for incitement

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Jeremiah]

Labour councillor suspended after appearing to say rioters' throats should be cutpublished at 13:43​

13:43Breaking​

A Labour councillor has been suspended by the party after a video circulating online appeared to show that the throats of rioters should be cut at a counter demonstration last night.

Ricky Jones, the Dartford Borough councillor, could also appear to be heard saying in the video that we need "get rid of them all", the PA news agency reported.

A Labour Party spokesperson says "this behaviour is completely unacceptable and it will not be tolerated".

The PA news agency understands that Jones has been administratively suspended and the whip has been removed, which means he can no longer be called a Labour councillor.

Suspended Labour councillor arrested after video emerges urging crowd to cut throats

Party says speech in Walthamstow ‘completely unacceptable’ as a man in his 50s is arrested for incitement

www.independent.co.uk

Surely he will be arrested and banged up for that ? Will be interesting to see the Police's response.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Surely he will be arrested and banged up for that ? Will be interesting to see the Police's response.

He should be.

 

[Jeremiah]

He should be.

I agree - not sure he will be though.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Labour councillor suspended after appearing to say rioters' throats should be cutpublished at 13:43​

13:43Breaking​

A Labour councillor has been suspended by the party after a video circulating online appeared to show that the throats of rioters should be cut at a counter demonstration last night.

Ricky Jones, the Dartford Borough councillor, could also appear to be heard saying in the video that we need "get rid of them all", the PA news agency reported.

A Labour Party spokesperson says "this behaviour is completely unacceptable and it will not be tolerated".

The PA news agency understands that Jones has been administratively suspended and the whip has been removed, which means he can no longer be called a Labour councillor.

Suspended Labour councillor arrested after video emerges urging crowd to cut throats

Party says speech in Walthamstow ‘completely unacceptable’ as a man in his 50s is arrested for incitement

www.independent.co.uk

Excellent.

By being honest and taking immediate action the moment anybody, no matter how junior, steps out of line, they seem to be putting massive amounts of clearwater between them and the previous Government even though there have been very little policy changes so far.

More of the same please

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Excellent.

By being honest and taking immediate action the moment anybody, no matter how junior, steps out of line, they seem to be putting massive amounts of clearwater between them and the previous Government even though there have been very little policy changes so far.

More of the same please

Agree.

Let's hope the OB and Courts deal with him as swiftly too.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Agree.

Let's hope the OB and Courts deal with him as swiftly too.

I would like to think so but unfortunately I can see a few assaults on police, violent disorders, rioting and potential terrorism offences from the last few days taking priority over a throat slitting gesture (not that it should). Hopefully he will get done bang to rights even if it isn't as swiftly as we'd like

 

[nevergoagain]

Labour MP for Rochester & Strood apologises as tweets resurface

Lauren Edwards has said posts from more than a decade ago were a "significant error of judgment".

www.bbc.co.uk

Whoops. The caring Labour party, perhaps she should defect to Reform ?

 

[Bald Head]

He's now been arrested on suspicion of inciting murder,don't know where suspicion comes from he said it loud and clear.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

 

[Bald Head]

Need to arrest those evil c*nts applauding and laughing as well.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Excellent

What was it Rishi said ? he promised a government of ‘integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level’.

Somewhat ironic that it's taken Starmer to deliver it. That clearwater between this Government and the last is getting wider by the hour.

 

[carlzeiss]

What ever the dude has said was well received by the folk in attendance there, judging by the applause received

 

[Chicken Run]

Labour MP for Rochester & Strood apologises as tweets resurface

Lauren Edwards has said posts from more than a decade ago were a "significant error of judgment".

www.bbc.co.uk

Whoops. The caring Labour party, perhaps she should defect to Reform ?

She used the ‘R’ word which isn’t a good look, i’m sure a poster on here was quite rightly very angry with the use of that word!