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Labour - Just DO ONE and have your conference somewhere else.



brightonbluenose

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May 6, 2006
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Some of us are actually earning out of this,i,m about to start my 8th night doing security at the centre. Plus with the conference being here the city is making about £50million in revenue.

£50million - you are having a laugh mate!

The conference brings approx £10m to the city each year it's here.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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raymondbriggs

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funny how those with more than £50k in the bank,or even worse in a failed icelandic bank,saved by the government and paid for by the taxes of ordinary people are whinning like f*** that Labour is going to increase the tax rate they will pay.
but then,only the poor should pay tax is the way they think.
 






As for Lord B's comment about the bypass, why should someone take a detour which adds several miles to his journey when there is a perfectly good road to use.
It's not a "perfectly good road". It's a nightmare to cross if you're a pedestrian. The volume of traffic ruins the seafront - and other city centre streets. And the emissions from vehicles contribute to poor air quality.

My comment was a simple one ... there's a case for charging motorists to use the seafront if their destination isn't the city centre. They are the ones who are causing the problems. If they want to continue doing so, they should pay more.
 


BensGrandad

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My comment was a simple one ... there's a case for charging motorists to use the seafront if their destination isn't the city centre. They are the ones who are causing the problems. If they want to continue doing so, they should pay more.

Do not think there is justification in charging anybody to use any road of their choice as they already pay exhorbitant road tax for vehicles. I disagree totally with conjestion charging or toll roads on motorways etc. I also disagree with charging on bridges and tunnels etc. If that is the way forward scrap road tax.
 


GNF on Tour

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Jul 7, 2003
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Do not think there is justification in charging anybody to use any road of their choice as they already pay exhorbitant road tax for vehicles. I disagree totally with conjestion charging or toll roads on motorways etc. I also disagree with charging on bridges and tunnels etc. If that is the way forward scrap road tax.

Its only a matter of time before this sort of thing happens more and more across the country and quite right too. I don't buy the arguement motorists pay enough already. You might disagree with tolls on bridges and tunnels but the bottomline is that without them they would not have been built in the first place, unless you want the public purse to pay for them instead of hospitals, schools and Trident missiles.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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It's not a "perfectly good road". It's a nightmare to cross if you're a pedestrian. The volume of traffic ruins the seafront - and other city centre streets. And the emissions from vehicles contribute to poor air quality.

My comment was a simple one ... there's a case for charging motorists to use the seafront if their destination isn't the city centre. They are the ones who are causing the problems. If they want to continue doing so, they should pay more.

The rammifications of this would be shuddering. The seafront road is the only road going west to east if you want to travel along the coast. Its not being unreasonable to want to use this road. Yes there is an alternative of travelling north to lewes and then back down again but to have to travel 10 miles inland to then have to travel 6 miles south to get back onto the coast road is somewhat unreasonable in my book.
 


keaton

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Nov 18, 2004
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So with Labour you can't drive into Brighton (why would you want to at a weekend, it's always horrible)
Under the Tories you couldn't go near the seafront without being blown up!
 


Brovion

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The rammifications of this would be shuddering. The seafront road is the only road going west to east if you want to travel along the coast. Its not being unreasonable to want to use this road. Yes there is an alternative of travelling north to lewes and then back down again but to have to travel 10 miles inland to then have to travel 6 miles south to get back onto the coast road is somewhat unreasonable in my book.
No, Lord B's right the A259 is not a through road and shouldn't be used as such. If you want to go from anywhere east of Brighton to west of Brighton (or vice-versa) then you should use the A27. Where Lord B and I disagree is I think the A27 should be upgraded to a proper trunk road, i.e. it shiould be dual-carriageway throughout its length (in Sussex anyway) and all roundabouts should be replaced with motorway-style junctions. All the while it's only a semi-built road with bottlenecks it will encourage drivers to seek alternative though-routes, such as the A259 or Chichester where in the summer it's actually quicker to drive through the city rather than use the roundabout-infested ringroad that they laughingly call a 'bypass'.

It does have to be carrot and stick though. I'd happily see a congestion charge in Brighton - or ideally traffic banned completely - if there was a proper alternative for both through traffic and inbound visitors. Sadly Government and thus local policy is just to use a stick though and sod the carrot.
 




Brovion

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.... anyway back to the Labour coinference. My wife's has to have a pass to allow her to drive through the area, and she has to ring up every morning for a code word!
 


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May 9, 2008
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Gareth mate. I love you dearly, albeit in a manly non-gay way.

But you're an idiot on this one.

a) The police presence is to try and prevent a terrorist atrocity as was visited on the Thatcher government in 1984. Would you have it any other way?

b) This 'shower of a government' were the ones who were DIRECTLY responsible for taking a Balls Of Steel lead in keeping the cashpoints dispensing money this time last year, when those ****ish bankers, the REAL Enemy Within, came THAT close to destroying our Western way of life and causing unprecedented rioting in every town and city in the UK and possibly every other developed country also. Labour have set us back 30 years? Arguable. But if they hadn't acted when they did, the bankers would have knocked us back into the social and economic stability of the Middle Ages. The government's failure to act decisively when they did would have led directly to a Peasants Revolt of the kind not seen for hundreds of years. Our way of life would have collapsed completely like a flimsy house of cards in a matter of weeks. Fact.
what's even worse , are ****ish people who have taken a major part in helping these ****ish bankers by providing IT services, but who now seek to distance themselves completely," wasn't me guv, i was only following orders "
 


Lady Whistledown

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That particular bit of the seafront is a nightmare at the best of times- the barriers that are up now are only causing similar congestion to that which has been caused by what seems like years worth of roadworks.

The security's not just for Gordon and chums though, is it? They'll have all sorts of world leaders and VIPs coming to speak at the conference over the course of this week (bit of mutual ego-boosting I suppose), and the Government can't afford to have anything nasty happen on their watch, as it were.
 




Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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I need to pop into Brighton next week to pick a few things up and Im only going to be there an hour tops so its not really worth getting the bus, am I going to be stuck all day?

I got in and out alright yesterday afternoon. Avoiding the seafront completely, I drove through Palmeria, turned up Montpelier at the lights and parked on a pay & display street around that area, £1.50 for an hour (its £3.10 for 2 hours). Only a short walk down to the shops. Damn sight quicker and cheaper than bussing.
 




Lady Whistledown

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The only roads that are closed are the ones directly around the Brighton Centre, the Grand and the Metropole- Cannon Place, Russell Road and Clarence/Regency Square areas.

The Churchill 1 & 2 car parks are still open to the public, albeit you might get your car searched on the way in.

There's one lane open each way on the A259, which is pretty much as you were when you consider all the roadworks over the past year. I'm not saying there aren't queues, but nothing much worse than normal. Yesterday was pretty bad, but it was a Sunday and the sun was shining, which always, unfailingly, brings the world and his wife into Brighton.
 


Acker79

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A lot more people along the sea front, making cycling along a bit more perilous.
 




Man of Harveys

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Jul 9, 2003
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cheaper than bussing.
That's the real point here - I unapologetically drive into town from my place: it's far more convenient for bringing shopping back, it's much quicker and I don't mind paying £2-3 to park, plus I tend to go in earlier than most because it's quieter then. All the time a private monopoly charges me more to provide a socially-aware alternative to line its coffers, I'll be struggling ever to convince myself to change.
 


Lady Whistledown

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A lot more people along the sea front, making cycling along a bit more perilous.

From out of town too, making them even more likely to ignore the cycle lanes and walk across your path :lolol:
 


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