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[Politics] Labour annual conference



Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,620
Brighton centre. Never seen so many police with machine guns ffs

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DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 3, 2012
17,336
Probably the new normal.
 


Mr Bridger

Sound of the suburbs
Feb 25, 2013
4,752
Earth
Brighton centre. Never seen so many police with machine guns ffs

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Think they might take a few out with this method, will be neater than explosives.
 




Lyndhurst 14

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2008
5,239
Will it be adding more congestion to the already screwed up traffic system on the seafront, or have they limited the road closures which would be more sensible?
 








JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Well Starmer does need protecting from all the party members that foolishly believed his promises re carrying forward Corbyn's Socialist agenda.

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timbha

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,497
Sussex
We have the weakest opposition parties ever at a time when at least one is most needed.

It can’t be that hard to be a credible opposition when all you have to do is say how you would have done better (without having to prove it).

I wonder what the terror threat level is for the conference
 


Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Are Labour still going? They must be the poorest opposition ever.

So you think that Labour are the poorest opposition EVER without actually knowing if they are still an active party or looking back in history to find out if there has been a worse opposition than the current Labour Party, apart from that, well done.
VAR would disallow your post for gross stupidity.
 


timbha

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
10,497
Sussex
So you think that Labour are the poorest opposition EVER without actually knowing if they are still an active party or looking back in history to find out if there has been a worse opposition than the current Labour Party, apart from that, well done.
VAR would disallow your post for gross stupidity.

Stockley Park are looking at your’s 😀. Is there a league table or archive of “worst UK opposition parties in history”? Surely the criteria is too subjective
 








Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
14,875
Almería
A radical left wing party has never appealed to the masses in the UK and never will.

Maybe a change is coming. According to a recent poll, under 35s are fed up with the status quo.

67 per cent say they would like to live in a socialist economic system.

75 per cent agree with the assertion that climate change is a specifically capitalist problem.

78 per cent blame capitalism for Britain’s housing crisis.

72 per cent support the (re-)nationalisation of various industries such as energy, water and the railways.

72 per cent believe that private sector involvement would put the NHS at risk.

75 per cent agree with the statement that ‘socialism is a good idea, but it has failed in the past because it has been badly done’.

https://iea.org.uk/media/67-per-cent-of-young-brits-want-a-socialist-economic-system-finds-new-poll/
 






Marty___Mcfly

I see your wicked plan - I’m a junglist.
Sep 14, 2011
2,251
Police on horses out the front of Churchill Square.

Not convinced that is achieving anything but a nice day out for the horses I’m sure [emoji206]
 


stewart12

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2019
1,916
Labour are finished, a complete irrelevancy.

people said similar when Blair was absolutely destroying the Tories on a consistent basis and I imagine it's been said of Labour before

10m voted Labour at the last election with a very divisive leader who the right wing media took an absolute machete to, and in an election focused on Brexit where they had a woefully wishy washy Brexit policy

Labour are the main party in almost every major city in the UK, comfortably won the London and Greater Manchester mayoral elections and picked up tonnes of councilors in traditionally hardcore Tory areas

They are the main party for young people (e.g the ones who aren't going to be dead in 20 years)

I'm not really a Labour voter, in fact out of the 5 G.E's I've voted in, I've only voted Labour once and that was to help get rid of a diabolical Tory MP, and haven't voted for them in an Council elections, but to say they're a "complete irrelevancy" is just stupid tbh.
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
20,560
Playing snooker
Maybe a change is coming. According to a recent poll, under 35s are fed up with the status quo.

67 per cent say they would like to live in a socialist economic system.

75 per cent agree with the assertion that climate change is a specifically capitalist problem.

78 per cent blame capitalism for Britain’s housing crisis.

72 per cent support the (re-)nationalisation of various industries such as energy, water and the railways.

72 per cent believe that private sector involvement would put the NHS at risk.

75 per cent agree with the statement that ‘socialism is a good idea, but it has failed in the past because it has been badly done’.

https://iea.org.uk/media/67-per-cent-of-young-brits-want-a-socialist-economic-system-finds-new-poll/

But when they are younger and more idealistic they don’t vote (in sufficient numbers) and when they are older with families and financial commitments and responsibilities they tend to vote far more conservatively, with a small c.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,994
Maybe a change is coming. According to a recent poll, under 35s are fed up with the status quo.

67 per cent say they would like to live in a socialist economic system.

75 per cent agree with the assertion that climate change is a specifically capitalist problem.

78 per cent blame capitalism for Britain’s housing crisis.

72 per cent support the (re-)nationalisation of various industries such as energy, water and the railways.

72 per cent believe that private sector involvement would put the NHS at risk.

75 per cent agree with the statement that ‘socialism is a good idea, but it has failed in the past because it has been badly done’.

https://iea.org.uk/media/67-per-cent-of-young-brits-want-a-socialist-economic-system-finds-new-poll/

this show people dont know what socialism is or what the cause of most problems are. they want mixed capitalist/social democracy with a bit more of the later than they think they have today.
 


stewart12

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2019
1,916
But when they are younger and more idealistic they don’t vote (in sufficient numbers) and when they are older with families and financial commitments and responsibilities they tend to vote far more conservatively, with a small c.

this has been untested with the current crop of young people who are quite different to previous generations to be honest. I think their parents generation will be in for a bit of a shock at how things shift when that generation are in charge
 


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