Kicking off in NYC

[The Merry Prankster]

The NYPD, tools of the 1% and the fascist Bloomberg are clearing the protest in Zuccotti Park. Protests spreading to Broadway. Media stifled, only reliable reports coming via Al Jezeera. Land of the Free - not this morning.

 

[Norman Potting]

The media are stifled with the exception it would appear of the headline feature on the World section of the BBC news website, including a video from one of the protestors. Presumably if "only reliable reports coming via Al Jezeera" there are other, in your view, less reliable reports (presumably you are in NYC to to know what is accurate) to compare. How is it stifled then?

Thought I should just set the record straight, whatever your views are on the subject.

 

[Finch]

Can they clear the squatters from the centre of my town too. Absolutely worthless protest.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Can they clear the squatters from the centre of my town too. Absolutely worthless protest.

Worthless protests that have the world over talking about them!? er.... oh hang on a minute...

 

[Finch]

I haven't seen anyone around the world talking about the protesters squatting in my town. They've pitched tents in the centre of town, denying what should be everyones to enjoy, and they aren't doing any active protesting, they are just being men of leisure.

 

[Bold Seagull]

You're talking about them from the antipodes on a Brighton message board in reference to other protests across the Atlantic in NY. I'd say that was pretty much around the world!

 

[Finch]

I'm still of the opinion that if they want to protest, protest. Don't just squat. I think its a good thing they are cleaning the place up and saying you are welcome back to protest in a few hours, just not with tents and sleeping bags which was attracting lots of fake "protesters" because it was a chill place to hang out for free.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I haven't seen anyone around the world talking about the protesters squatting in my town. They've pitched tents in the centre of town, denying what should be everyones to enjoy, and they aren't doing any active protesting, they are just being men of leisure.

Exactly. I'm sure the protesters can coexist with other users of the park.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Not a fan of these crusties at all and many of the people there are just middle class kids who have the luxury of being able to "protest" and not work. However, point raised a few days back (might even have been on NSC) was that protesters don't need to have any answers, that's not their job. They simply have to pose the question. And whatever your view of them and their politics and their approach, you can't argue that they have done that. I'm aware of far more anti-fat cat sentiment in the last few months in the media and I'm sure these "protests" have contributed to that.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

You're talking about them from the antipodes on a Brighton message board in reference to other protests across the Atlantic in NY. I'd say that was pretty much around the world!

Brilliant point well made.

 

[Arthur]

British police should take note and start cracking a few skulls up at St Pauls!

 

[Grendel]

However, point raised a few days back (might even have been on NSC) was that protesters don't need to have any answers, that's not their job. They simply have to pose the question.

Doesn't really help their credibility though, does it? Every time I see one of them on television saying "We're protesting against this because, um, we don't like it and it's not very good and, um, we'd like it to be replaced by something, er, better", it just makes me think of David Spart in Private Eye.

 

[e77]

I agree with their sentiment but perhaps time to come up with specific demands.

 

[bpbill]

Doesn't really help their credibility though, does it? Every time I see one of them on television saying "We're protesting against this because, um, we don't like it and it's not very good and, um, we'd like it to be replaced by something, er, better", it just makes me think of David Spart in Private Eye.

But isn't this what politicians do? Then after voicing their opinions they then commission x number of enquiries, spending x millions of pounds in order to determine what they want instead.

I agree with their sentiment but perhaps time to come up with specific demands.

We could always fund an enquiry to enable them to come up with specific demands but then that would hit our pockets in some way either through taxes or donation.

 

[Acker79]

Doesn't really help their credibility though, does it? Every time I see one of them on television saying "We're protesting against this because, um, we don't like it and it's not very good and, um, we'd like it to be replaced by something, er, better", it just makes me think of David Spart in Private Eye.

It's selective airing. For example, when you want to make it look like a ridiculous protest show people who don't have the ability to express all the points they hold. It's why Fox didn't show this interview:

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[Tyrone Biggums]

I love how they think if they protest something will change.

If I was the governments i'd let them all sit around for as long as they want. They aren't going to achieve anything sitting there while the governments keep on governing on.

Then eventually they will one by one tire of sitting around and start to go home.

The dye has been cast. Find your own comfortable little place on the planet and get on with life.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I agree with the right to protest, and there's plenty of talking, but nothing changes.

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

The thing about the protestors is that they only get coverage when they try to evict them. Because we don't know what they want or even actually what they are against (is it captialism? or greed? and where is the boundary?) its very hard for them to portray themselves as serious protestors rather than just layabouts from the ultra-left.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

In most nations these people can protest and have little to worry about coming up agaisnt other groups with opposing views.

I'm sure if these types of protests pop up in the wrong place they could be challenged not by the Police, but by a movement like the Tea Party and it's Conservative Libertarians.

And them Libertarians often pack heat.

Civil Wars on its way back!

 

[DerbyGull]