Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Why was my question on 'Ask the Club' about Ken Browns behaviour last night removed ?
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Ken Brown
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Barrel of Fun
Abort, retry, fail
If anything, I guess Insider will not be able to comment on that as it is a matter between Ken Brown and CJD. I think it should be up to him to decide that though!
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
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This is the question I asked on 'Ask the Club'
Is this sort of behaviour by a senior club official condoned ?
Originally Posted by cjd
Oh joy....!
After being unable to access the internet due to faulty BT cable for the last 24 hours..........I,m now back online....yayyyyyyyyy....!
Now.............back to last night.
What a complete and utter shambles the ticketing arrangements turned out to be.
I have read on another thread that a poster noticed a very angry man in a confrontation with Ken Brown last night. That very angry man, was almost certainly me.
After the incompetent Mr.Ken Brown finally, made the momentous and hand-wringing decision to open the gates, most people made a relieved dash to the gates.
I doing likewise, spotted Mr. Ken Brown to my right and took the opportunity to inform him what I thought of his competence/lack of. Having asked my first question...."are you Ken Brown..?", I noticed the belligerence in his face and stance..(legs apart......hands on hips, looking at the fans going in as if they were peices of shit and scum). He replied that he was. I immediately informed him that the ticketing distribution tonight was an utter shambles. His immediate reaction was to demand what time I booked my tickets. My reply.........."today, about 2.00pm......what,s that got to do with it...?". His second immediate reaction was to put the whole of the palm of his hand about 3" from my face.......( in hindsight I think he probably harbours a desire to be an old fashion police director of traffic). Now, as he wished to take this stance, then I,m afraid I will respond likewise. He had absolutely no intention of admitting liabilty or responsibilty. I recall his response was .." I dont work in the ticket office". I then, in a heated exchange informed him, that surely he was responsible and ultimately was in charge. To this he agreed. Still no sign of apology......or more importantly, that he even cared.
I then launched into a rapid tirade of how long I,d supported this club...(over 40 years), and how the club "allegedly" wants more supporters..........and yet.............someone, from a club like Millwall is "transferred" here in his Saville Row suit, clipped haicut and shiny shoes, looking every inch , nothing more than a cockney wide-eyed boy, to be responsible to improving the fans lot. I also informed him, that in my opinion, his probably extortionate salary, was ill-spent by the club, and he ought to be fired for incompetence.........(there was a similar debacle against Ipswich for the friendly.........but on a much smaller scale). He clearly didn,t like what I was saying, and uttered some incomprehensible veiled threats...to which I offered him my season ticket details. He declined them.He then offered me his "business" card. I refused it.........but for the sake of decency, declined to tell him where he could place his business card, much as I would like to have done.
I understand that as I left, he mentioned that I should be careful or I would be banned.................something that I understand , he was rather good at when at Millwall.
However, he did send an oaf of a steward, scurrying after me..........who "entertained" me for a further 10 minutes, before allowing me through the gate. My son, was also there, to witness the oafs "entertainment" period, and as he (my son) said afterwards.......good job the steward only had one brain-cell...........he would have been dangerous if he had two..!
All in all, this club desperately needs new supporters to bolster the gates, so that us "older" supporters, who bleed blue and white, will have a team to support in the future. Mr.Ken Brown, IMHO, is not only NOT the man for the job...............he is also IMHO, fraudulently bleeding this club of money, by his ill-gotten gains via his salary.
I have supported this club virtually all my life....................like many others, I have contributed to every fund going..................but why............?........so that someone like Ken Brown can just take the money out and at the same time destroy the efforts of so many, to try and portray this club as caring, efficient and wanting to build for the future...?
Mr. Ken Brown should be fired, and shown the front exit door as soon as possible.
Is this sort of behaviour by a senior club official condoned ?
Originally Posted by cjd
Oh joy....!
After being unable to access the internet due to faulty BT cable for the last 24 hours..........I,m now back online....yayyyyyyyyy....!
Now.............back to last night.
What a complete and utter shambles the ticketing arrangements turned out to be.
I have read on another thread that a poster noticed a very angry man in a confrontation with Ken Brown last night. That very angry man, was almost certainly me.
After the incompetent Mr.Ken Brown finally, made the momentous and hand-wringing decision to open the gates, most people made a relieved dash to the gates.
I doing likewise, spotted Mr. Ken Brown to my right and took the opportunity to inform him what I thought of his competence/lack of. Having asked my first question...."are you Ken Brown..?", I noticed the belligerence in his face and stance..(legs apart......hands on hips, looking at the fans going in as if they were peices of shit and scum). He replied that he was. I immediately informed him that the ticketing distribution tonight was an utter shambles. His immediate reaction was to demand what time I booked my tickets. My reply.........."today, about 2.00pm......what,s that got to do with it...?". His second immediate reaction was to put the whole of the palm of his hand about 3" from my face.......( in hindsight I think he probably harbours a desire to be an old fashion police director of traffic). Now, as he wished to take this stance, then I,m afraid I will respond likewise. He had absolutely no intention of admitting liabilty or responsibilty. I recall his response was .." I dont work in the ticket office". I then, in a heated exchange informed him, that surely he was responsible and ultimately was in charge. To this he agreed. Still no sign of apology......or more importantly, that he even cared.
I then launched into a rapid tirade of how long I,d supported this club...(over 40 years), and how the club "allegedly" wants more supporters..........and yet.............someone, from a club like Millwall is "transferred" here in his Saville Row suit, clipped haicut and shiny shoes, looking every inch , nothing more than a cockney wide-eyed boy, to be responsible to improving the fans lot. I also informed him, that in my opinion, his probably extortionate salary, was ill-spent by the club, and he ought to be fired for incompetence.........(there was a similar debacle against Ipswich for the friendly.........but on a much smaller scale). He clearly didn,t like what I was saying, and uttered some incomprehensible veiled threats...to which I offered him my season ticket details. He declined them.He then offered me his "business" card. I refused it.........but for the sake of decency, declined to tell him where he could place his business card, much as I would like to have done.
I understand that as I left, he mentioned that I should be careful or I would be banned.................something that I understand , he was rather good at when at Millwall.
However, he did send an oaf of a steward, scurrying after me..........who "entertained" me for a further 10 minutes, before allowing me through the gate. My son, was also there, to witness the oafs "entertainment" period, and as he (my son) said afterwards.......good job the steward only had one brain-cell...........he would have been dangerous if he had two..!
All in all, this club desperately needs new supporters to bolster the gates, so that us "older" supporters, who bleed blue and white, will have a team to support in the future. Mr.Ken Brown, IMHO, is not only NOT the man for the job...............he is also IMHO, fraudulently bleeding this club of money, by his ill-gotten gains via his salary.
I have supported this club virtually all my life....................like many others, I have contributed to every fund going..................but why............?........so that someone like Ken Brown can just take the money out and at the same time destroy the efforts of so many, to try and portray this club as caring, efficient and wanting to build for the future...?
Mr. Ken Brown should be fired, and shown the front exit door as soon as possible.
clippedgull
Hotdogs, extra onions
I'm not saying Ken Brown should not be bought to task on the arrangements or lack of last night, but with abuse being directed by a heated mob I'm sure we would all lose our cool.
If nothing else he had the balls to go down rather than sending a lackey to do his dirty work.
If nothing else he had the balls to go down rather than sending a lackey to do his dirty work.
Uncle Buck
Ghost Writer
- Jul 7, 2003
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From this site;
Lions Trust - Millwall Supporters Club
6. Do you feel the appointment of Ken Brown as Chief Executive has been successful?
Yes 0% No 57% Indifferent 43%
Lions Trust - Millwall Supporters Club
6. Do you feel the appointment of Ken Brown as Chief Executive has been successful?
Yes 0% No 57% Indifferent 43%
Uncle Buck
Ghost Writer
- Jul 7, 2003
- 28,075
I think their Cup Final ticket distribution was interesting...
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
- 72,015
I've heard of a wide boy but that's the 1st time I've heard the expression wide eyed boy used as an insult
The Spanish
Well-known member
he caused mayhem at Millwall banning normal bods for the most innocuous reasons, wait and he will start doing it here too. He is dangerous and a drain on very valuable resources. I promise that people will get banned for farting coughing at corners and will generally get treated with contempt and a holier than thou attitude. Watch this space.
I am not his greatest fan.
I am not his greatest fan.
Withdean Wanderer
Banned
I don't understand why he's getting so much stick.
YES, there are cock-ups and YES, they need addressing - but he is doing all the jobs that were previously done by Perry, minus the Falmer business. To suggest he's taking the club down the pan are off the mark, there's just no evidence of improvement that we can see. That doesn't mean he's not made a particularly useful contribution to the club though.
Hopefully he'll address this latest problem, and quickly.
YES, there are cock-ups and YES, they need addressing - but he is doing all the jobs that were previously done by Perry, minus the Falmer business. To suggest he's taking the club down the pan are off the mark, there's just no evidence of improvement that we can see. That doesn't mean he's not made a particularly useful contribution to the club though.
Hopefully he'll address this latest problem, and quickly.
Uncle Buck
Ghost Writer
- Jul 7, 2003
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I guess one way to get round this ticketing issue is to just ban people...
Man of Harveys
Well-known member
Banning a load of scrotey sad little hoolies is never going to be massively popular with a load of scrotey sad little hoolies, to be fair.
chez
Johnny Byrne-The Greatest
I think he's getting stick due to the way he handled the complaints last night. Seemingly blaming everyone but the club for the fiasco and not listening to anyone.
I tend to agree. If Brown is shit at his job I'm sure that are far better examples of his incompetence. Last night, and the numerous phone line/web booking complaints, for example.
The Spanish
Well-known member
No as I said in my post he banned loads of normal bods. People going 50 odd years and had never kicked off in their life.
"First they came for the communists......."
"First they came for the communists......."
bright1064
New member
What kind of things were they banned for then?