[Albion] Justin Trudeau

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Doubled national debt in under 10 full years:

“According to a rolling “debt clock” maintained by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, the federal debt on New Year’s Day stood at $1.2 trillion.

At the beginning of 2015, it stood at $612 billion. In pure dollar terms, that’s a doubling of the debt in just 10 years; the accumulated liabilities from 2015 to 2025 are about the same as the accumulated liabilities from 1867 to 2015.”


Failed to meaningfully lower carbon emissions, despite spending hundreds of billions of dollars on initiatives:

“In 2015, the average Canadian was responsible for 20.9 tonnes of greenhouse gases. As of the federal government’s most current figures from 2022, it’s now at 18.2. That’s a reduction, but it’s a reduction that’s basically in line with trends that were already underway. Over the 10 years of the Harper government, for instance, per-capita GHG emissions fell from 23.3 tonnes in 2006 to the 20.9 counted in 2015.”

Worth also noting that Trudeau has a record number of personal private chartered flights for a Canadian PM, and when questioned about what he personally does to help lower emissions failed to come up with an answer, before stating he buys “boxed water” instead of plastic water in his home.


Homicide rates are the highest since the 1990’s:

“In 2014, Canada recorded 516 homicides — the lowest murder rate since 1966. As of the 2023 figures just tallied by Statistics Canada, it’s now up to 778 per year — which is actually a reduction from the year before, when murder rates reached highs not seen since 1992.

There’s also been a huge rise in handgun crimes. In 2014, there were 14 handgun crimes for every 100,000 Canadians. By 2022, that was up to 19.3.”


Record high housing prices:

“In November of 2015 — the month that Trudeau was sworn in as prime minister — the Canadian Real Estate Association pegged Canada’s average sale price for a home at $456,186 (about $580,000 in 2025 dollars).

There was a brief period in 2022 where home prices surged to $868,400 — a near-doubling of the 2015 figures in dollar terms. But at the end of 2024, CREA calculated the average sale price as sitting at $694,411. When accounting for inflation, that’s a rise of about 20 per cent over the 2015 figures.”

In addition to this, fewer new homes have been built in the last ten years than in any other period in recorded Canadian history.


Overdose deaths have quadrupled following his law to decriminalise drugs:


“According to a paper by the Canadian Medical Association, an estimated 2,000 Canadians died of drug overdoses in 2015 — about five per day.

As of the most recent federal data, that’s now quadrupled to 21 per day. In just the first six months of 2024, 3,787 Canadians died from opioid poisoning. What’s more, this is all occurring despite a vast government infrastructure designed to reverse fatal overdoses.”


Those are just some of the “highlights” when discussing the domestic welfare of Canadians.

Otherwise on a personal level, he has lost the support of his party, with many of his MP’s and several cabinet resigning. He survived two votes of no confidence by the skin of his teeth. He has also made numerous diplomatic faux-pas, falling out with America (easily done) but also India and China.

The country is doing very poorly economically and his tentpole policies have universally failed.

Thank you for the detail.

I can't escape the thought that most other western nations, certainly ours, have declined similarly in the same timeframe and a "trump lite" as he was described earlier surely isn't going to make things better.

 

[jcdenton08]

Thank you for the detail.

I can't escape the thought that most other western nations, certainly ours, have declined similarly in the same timeframe and a "trump lite" as he was described earlier surely isn't going to make things better.

I absolutely agree, but Canadians persevered and re-elected Trudeau and gave him a very fair crack of the whip. From the perspective of the working Canadian, and statistically speaking, things are quite literally the worst they’ve ever been in terms of quality of living.

Considering rising housing costs to static wages, high grocery prices, high fuel prices (a huge factor in Canada where population density is hugely spread out, and many Canadians have to drive long distances to work. There is no notable national public transport such as long distance trains outside of city hubs).

What choice do they have? If things have gone to shit and keep getting worse, the majority of people will vote for anything else but more of the same.

 

[zefarelly]

You would have thought, given the extent to which his dad was a massive wrong 'un, the electorate would have seen through him.

Oh well.

The Canadian electorate has always been odd. When I lived in Vancouver the province was run by 'Social Credit', a weird reactionary right wing rag bag of farmers, tee-totallers, evangelicals, property developers and grifters.

That sounds familiar . . .what kind of accents did they have?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

That sounds familiar . . .what kind of accents did they have?

Canadian.

 

[Badger]

I absolutely agree, but Canadians persevered and re-elected Trudeau and gave him a very fair crack of the whip. From the perspective of the working Canadian, and statistically speaking, things are quite literally the worst they’ve ever been in terms of quality of living.

Considering rising housing costs to static wages, high grocery prices, high fuel prices (a huge factor in Canada where population density is hugely spread out, and many Canadians have to drive long distances to work. There is no notable national public transport such as long distance trains outside of city hubs).

What choice do they have? If things have gone to shit and keep getting worse, the majority of people will vote for anything else but more of the same.

This is the problem. The economy really isn't in good shape and the price of living in Canada is a real problem for millions of people.

I'm unlikely to vote for a Conservative MP but the Liberals really need a new leader with some big plans to change the direction things have been going in. This will be the first time I've been able to vote in a federal election and it's going to be hard to choose who to vote for.

The other problem is people often don't know the difference between provincial and federal government and what they control. We've had a Conservative provincial government in Ontario since 2017 and that's hardly been a great success. Doug Ford is another "Trump Lite" who likes to give construction contracts to his buddies and is happy to trample over sensible city policies in Toronto.

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Can he play right back ?

 

[jcdenton08]

This is the problem. The economy really isn't in good shape and the price of living in Canada is a real problem for millions of people.

I'm unlikely to vote for a Conservative MP but the Liberals really need a new leader with some big plans to change the direction things have been going in. This will be the first time I've been able to vote in a federal election and it's going to be hard to choose who to vote for.

The other problem is people often don't know the difference between provincial and federal government and what they control. We've had a Conservative provincial government in Ontario since 2017 and that's hardly been a great success. Doug Ford is another "Trump Lite" who likes to give construction contracts to his buddies and is happy to trample over sensible city policies in Toronto.

Absolutely re: this.

My other half thought Harper got a very raw deal in the middle of the financial crisis, and predicted at the time that it would be an idea to tighten the belt. The problem was Harper was a thoroughly unlikeable old-school Tory, and the new guy promising a new deal, Trudeau, was charming, easy on the eye and appealed to women and young voters with his message.

What really wasn’t needed was billions pissed away in vanity projects and giveaways, at the expense of necessities for Canadians - affordable housing, jobs, infrastructure. The boring stuff that makes a country grow.

The truth is the Trudeau experiment has failed by any measure, and even Liberal stalwarts accept that at this stage with the legacy of his Premiership laid bare in facts and figures.

So while Poilievre may indeed come off as Mini Trump, right now he’s the one giving all the right answers just like Trudeau before him. And I don’t blame Canadians for wanting a drastic change.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

This next prime minister could be Canada-defining.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Can he play right back ?

Right back in the facking queue at the job centre!

 

[goldstone]

It's almost certain to be Pierre Poilievre (Conservative) as the next PM. He'll be Trump Lite.

Great! Trudeau was way way too far to the left at a time when all sensible countries are moving to the right.

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Right back in the facking queue at the job centre!

Don't share my sense of humour !

 

[Badger]

Can he play right back ?

Trudeau is probably more of a left back.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

This is the problem. The economy really isn't in good shape and the price of living in Canada is a real problem for millions of people.

I'm unlikely to vote for a Conservative MP but the Liberals really need a new leader with some big plans to change the direction things have been going in. This will be the first time I've been able to vote in a federal election and it's going to be hard to choose who to vote for.

The other problem is people often don't know the difference between provincial and federal government and what they control. We've had a Conservative provincial government in Ontario since 2017 and that's hardly been a great success. Doug Ford is another "Trump Lite" who likes to give construction contracts to his buddies and is happy to trample over sensible city policies in Toronto.

Buddies you say.......

 

[albionalex]

He also has been getting some criticism for too much immigration (which is fair enough as he let me and @Badger in).

How Canada soured on immigration

Canada is one of the world's most welcoming countries. So why is it now scaling back immigration?

www.bbc.com

 

[Whoislloydy]

Trudeau is probably more of a left back.

So left he's on the touchline

He also has been getting some criticism for too much immigration (which is fair enough as he let me and @Badger in).

How Canada soured on immigration

Canada is one of the world's most welcoming countries. So why is it now scaling back immigration?

www.bbc.com

I immigrated here in 2017, but things have gotten out of control post COVID. Unskilled workers using these online university diploma farm loopholes to come here in droves, putting a burden on the already bad housing situation.

 

[albionalex]

So left he's on the touchline

I immigrated here in 2017, but things have gotten out of control post COVID. Unskilled workers using these online university diploma farm loopholes to come here in droves, putting a burden on the already bad housing situation.

But we need Uber Eats delivery people!!

 

[Whoislloydy]

But we need Uber Eats delivery people!!

Don't forget the Tim Hortons workers

 

[Springal]

 

[Badger]

But we need Uber Eats delivery people!!

Exactly. Who else is going to ride on the pavements with giant electric bikes?

 

[Whoislloydy]

Exactly. Who else is going to ride on the pavements with giant electric bikes?

And no lights, wearing all black with headphones in so they can't hear a thing.