Well whatever you do, don't take down the site.
I assume that the rights to the footage does belong to some company though, so you may end up having to remove them, but still don't remove the whole site.
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I assume that the rights to the footage does belong to some company though, so you may end up having to remove them, but still don't remove the whole site.
Well if the leagues and broadcasters want to put the exact same content on their own site then they have a case but, until they do, they can bugger off.
I think these huge corporations underestimate the power of the ordinary and not so ordinary fans. Blimey we saved the club in 97 and for 20 years battled our way to the Premier League. How the hell do they think that the hive power of the club as well as NSC can be buckled by some jumped up broadcasters who have Olivia and Dexter in private schools.
Bast****.
Bast****.
Agreed. It's absurd unless they're providing an alternative source to the content.
That's incredible.Mr Nissan called his computing company Nissan before Datsun even changed their name to Nissan. Not only do Nissan have the cheek to sue him, they later applied for a trademark for the term Nissan under the category, “Computer software games; computer storage devices, namely, flash drives.”
What an absolute piss take.
http://www.nissan.com/
Sussex Nomad
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Mr Nissan called his computing company Nissan before Datsun even changed their name to Nissan. Not only do Nissan have the cheek to sue him, they later applied for a trademark for the term Nissan under the category, “Computer software games; computer storage devices, namely, flash drives.”
What an absolute piss take.
http://www.nissan.com/
I like the fact he hasn't updated his site for 5 years and makes himself a legit business despite probably never having fixed a PC in his life, just to piss off the big corporate
gripper stebson
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OK here's what we do.
Everyone rip a video or two from the site and upload them with the prefix 'Albion History' to their own channel. So 'Albion History - Brighton v Man City 1981' would be the name of the new video.
The videos will then be spread far and wide across Youtube but can be easily found by searching for 'Albion History'. MUCH harder to police that.
Job done.
Everyone rip a video or two from the site and upload them with the prefix 'Albion History' to their own channel. So 'Albion History - Brighton v Man City 1981' would be the name of the new video.
The videos will then be spread far and wide across Youtube but can be easily found by searching for 'Albion History'. MUCH harder to police that.
Job done.
If this is coming down from the broadcasters then I guess there is little the club can do. However, if it is the club looking to exploit a very small commercial opportunity then it is extremely disappointing. PB and TB were at the Emirates and witnessed the dire consequences of a club that has put commercial opportunities way ahead of their core supporters. Unfortunately, football fans will visit Arsenal and be astounded at how a great club sold out and now play in front of the worst set of 'supporters'. Arsenal have won nothing since moving to the stadium (yes, they've won the FA cup, a competition that, regrettably, no one has much interest in).
If it is the club, why don't they work together with GR to see how they can use the archive without coming across as corporate bullys?
If it is the club, why don't they work together with GR to see how they can use the archive without coming across as corporate bullys?
Great idea they'll be so confused their channel will break.
DumLum
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Thanks for sharing. Do you think you should change the title of the thread to 'They are closing down seagulls YouTube channel' or something like this? As I nearly didn't click on this thread.
Why do you think it isn't a legit business? He registered it before the company Nissan existed.I like the fact he hasn't updated his site for 5 years and makes himself a legit business despite probably never having fixed a PC in his life, just to piss off the big corporate
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point of order, unless you have permission, you're not allowed to post broadcasts old or new in the first place. i know its rife on Youtube and the enforcement erratic, but those are the laws. i like the idea above of copying and distributing the old clips across multiple accounts, thats a good way to help avoid a crack down. a dedicated channel makes a nice easy target to go for.
Sussex Nomad
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I just think he's playing v big corporate, and rightly so. The Nissan name has been a car company for far longer than when they changed the name in the UK. They just never got round to changing the brand in this country.
DumLum
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Very sad. I have been using these videos to teach my 4 year old why he supports Brighton. He usually says can I watch peppa pig now Daddy but I would have worn him down in the end.
Thank you Goldstone rapper for all your work.
I'm very annoyed like many.
studio150
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Change the title to ' Favourite nesting places of Seagulls'
That should fool them for a time
That should fool them for a time
Sussex Nomad
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This is the most scandalous...
MacJoy (Philippines)Edit
In 2004, McDonald's sued Cebu-based fast food restaurant MacJoy for using a very similar trade name. In its defense, MacJoy insisted that it was the first user of the mark under the title "MACJOY & DEVICE" for its business in*Cebu City*which started in 1987, five years before McDonald's opened its first outlet in the same city. MacJoy stated that the requirement of “actual use” in commerce in the Philippines before one may register a trademark pertains to the territorial jurisdiction on a national scale and is not merely confined to a certain locality or region. It added that "MacJoy" is a term of endearment for the owner's niece whose name is Scarlett Yu Carcel. In response, McDonald's claimed that there was no connection with the name Scarlett Yu Carcel to merit the coinage of the word "MacJoy" and that the only logical conclusion over the name is to help the Cebu restaurant ride high on their (McDonald's) established reputation.
On February 2007, the*Philippine Supreme Court*upheld the right of McDonald's over its registered and internationally recognized trademarks.[9]*As a result, the owners of MacJoy, the Espina family, was forced to change its trademark into MyJoy,[10]*which went into effect with the re-opening of its two branches in Cebu City on August that year.
McCoffee (US)Edit
In 1994, McDonald's successfully forced Elizabeth McCaughey of the*San Francisco Bay Area*to change the trading name of her coffee shop*McCoffee, which had operated under that name for 17 years. "This is the moment I surrendered the little 'c' to corporate America," said Elizabeth McCaughey, who had named it as an adaptation of her surname.[11]
Norman McDonald's Country Drive-Inn (US)Edit
From the early 1960s to the mid-1980s, Norman McDonald ran a small "Country Drive-Inn" restaurant in*Philpot, Kentucky*called simply "McDonald's Hamburgers; Country Drive-Inn", which at the time also had a gas station and*convenience store. McDonald's the restaurant chain forced Norman to remove the arches and add the full*Norman*McDonald's name to its sign so customers would not be confused into thinking the restaurant was affiliated with the McDonald's restaurant chain. The restaurant is still open to this day (though it no longer has the gas station).
McChina Wok Away (UK)Edit
In 2001, McDonald’s lost a nine-year legal action against Frank Yuen, owner ofMcChina Wok Away, a small chain of Chinese takeaway outlets in London.*Justice David Neuberger*ruled the McChina name would not cause any confusion among customers and that McDonald's had no right to the prefix Mc.[12]
McMunchies (UK)Edit
In 1996, McDonald's forced Scottish sandwich shop owner Mary Blair of*Fenny Stratford,*Buckinghamshire*to drop McMunchies as her trading name. Mrs. Blair did not sell*burgers*or*chips. She said she chose the name because she liked the word munchies and wanted the cafe to have a Scottish feel. The cafe's sign reflected this, featuring a Scottish thistle and a St Andrew's flag. But in a statement to Mrs. Blair's solicitors, McDonald's said if someone used the Mc prefix, even unintentionally, they were using something that does not belong to them.[13]
MacDonald's (UK - Cayman Islands)Edit
McDonald's filed a lawsuit against MacDonald's Family Restaurant, located in Grand Cayman. McDonald's lost the case, and in addition, was banned from ever opening a McDonald's location on Grand Cayman. This ruling still stands today.
McAllan (Denmark)Edit
In 1996, McDonald's lost a legal battle at the*Danish Supreme Court*to force Allan Pedersen, a hotdog vendor, to drop his shop name*McAllan.[14]*Pedersen had previously visited Scotland on*whisky tasting*tours. He named his business after his favorite brand of whisky, MacAllan's, after contacting the distillery to see if they would object. They did not, but McDonald's did. However, the court ruled customers could tell the difference between a one-man vendor and a multi-national chain and ordered McDonald's to pay 40,000 kroner ($6,900) in court costs. The verdict cannot be appealed.
McCurry (Malaysia)Edit
In 2001, McDonald's sued a small restaurant named*McCurry, a popular eatery serving Indian food in*Jalan Ipoh,*Kuala Lumpur,*Malaysia. McDonald's claimed that the use of the "Mc" prefix infringed its trademark, while the defendant claimed that McCurry stood for*Malaysian Chicken Curry.
In 2006, McDonald's won an initial judgment in the*High Court. The judge ruled that the prefix Mc and the use of colours distinctive of the McDonald's brand could confuse and deceive customers.[15]*In April 2009, however, a three-member*Appeal Court*panel overturned the verdict, saying that there was no evidence to show that McCurry was passing off its own product as that of McDonald's. The Appeals Court also said that McDonald's cannot claim an exclusive right to the "Mc" prefix in the country. McDonald's appealed the decision to the*Federal Court, the highest court in Malaysia. In September 2009, the Federal Court upheld the Appeal Court's decision. McDonald's appeal was dismissed with costs, and was ordered to pay RM10,000 to McCurry.[16][17]
South African trademark lawEdit
Apartheid*politics had prevented earlier expansion into South Africa, but as the apartheid regime came to an end in the early 1990s, McDonald's decided to expand there. The company had already recognized South Africa as a potentially significant market and had registered its name as a trademark there in 1968.
Under South African law, trademarks cease to be the property of a company if they are not used for a certain amount of time. McDonald's had renewed the 1968 registration several times, but missed a renewal deadline. The registration expired and McDonald’s discovered two fast food restaurants in South Africa were trading under the name MacDonalds. Moreover, a businessman had applied to register the McDonald’s name.
Multiple lawsuits were filed. The fast food chain was stunned when the court ruled it had lost the rights to its world-famous name in South Africa. However, the company eventually won on appeal.[18]
The real Ronald McDonald (US)Edit
The company waged an unsuccessful 32-year legal action against McDonald's Family Restaurant which was opened by a man legally named Ronald McDonald in*Fairbury, Illinois*in 1956.[19]*Mr. McDonald ultimately continued to use his name on his restaurant, despite objections by McDonald's.[20]
The McBrat case (Australia)Edit
In 2005, McDonald’s tried to stop a Queensland lawyer, Malcolm McBratney, from using the name 'McBrat' on the shorts of the*Brisbane Irish Rugby*team. McDonald’s claimed the McBrat name should not be registered because it was too similar to its McKids trade mark, since the word 'brat' is another term for 'kid'. McBratney, a solicitor specialising in trademarks and intellectual property, argued that his family name had been used in Ireland since the 1600s, and that he had a right to use an abbreviation of that name. In 2006, the Delegate of the Register of Trade Marks held that McBratney could register 'McBrat' as a trademark and that McDonald's had no intellectual property rights over 'Mc' and 'Mac' prefixed words.[21]
McBratney, who specialises in intellectual property law, then brought a suit against McDonald's for its registration, in Australia in 1987, of 'McKids'.[citation needed]*This trademark had never been used in Australia and can therefore be removed for non-use.[citation needed]
MacJoy (Philippines)Edit
In 2004, McDonald's sued Cebu-based fast food restaurant MacJoy for using a very similar trade name. In its defense, MacJoy insisted that it was the first user of the mark under the title "MACJOY & DEVICE" for its business in*Cebu City*which started in 1987, five years before McDonald's opened its first outlet in the same city. MacJoy stated that the requirement of “actual use” in commerce in the Philippines before one may register a trademark pertains to the territorial jurisdiction on a national scale and is not merely confined to a certain locality or region. It added that "MacJoy" is a term of endearment for the owner's niece whose name is Scarlett Yu Carcel. In response, McDonald's claimed that there was no connection with the name Scarlett Yu Carcel to merit the coinage of the word "MacJoy" and that the only logical conclusion over the name is to help the Cebu restaurant ride high on their (McDonald's) established reputation.
On February 2007, the*Philippine Supreme Court*upheld the right of McDonald's over its registered and internationally recognized trademarks.[9]*As a result, the owners of MacJoy, the Espina family, was forced to change its trademark into MyJoy,[10]*which went into effect with the re-opening of its two branches in Cebu City on August that year.
McCoffee (US)Edit
In 1994, McDonald's successfully forced Elizabeth McCaughey of the*San Francisco Bay Area*to change the trading name of her coffee shop*McCoffee, which had operated under that name for 17 years. "This is the moment I surrendered the little 'c' to corporate America," said Elizabeth McCaughey, who had named it as an adaptation of her surname.[11]
Norman McDonald's Country Drive-Inn (US)Edit
From the early 1960s to the mid-1980s, Norman McDonald ran a small "Country Drive-Inn" restaurant in*Philpot, Kentucky*called simply "McDonald's Hamburgers; Country Drive-Inn", which at the time also had a gas station and*convenience store. McDonald's the restaurant chain forced Norman to remove the arches and add the full*Norman*McDonald's name to its sign so customers would not be confused into thinking the restaurant was affiliated with the McDonald's restaurant chain. The restaurant is still open to this day (though it no longer has the gas station).
McChina Wok Away (UK)Edit
In 2001, McDonald’s lost a nine-year legal action against Frank Yuen, owner ofMcChina Wok Away, a small chain of Chinese takeaway outlets in London.*Justice David Neuberger*ruled the McChina name would not cause any confusion among customers and that McDonald's had no right to the prefix Mc.[12]
McMunchies (UK)Edit
In 1996, McDonald's forced Scottish sandwich shop owner Mary Blair of*Fenny Stratford,*Buckinghamshire*to drop McMunchies as her trading name. Mrs. Blair did not sell*burgers*or*chips. She said she chose the name because she liked the word munchies and wanted the cafe to have a Scottish feel. The cafe's sign reflected this, featuring a Scottish thistle and a St Andrew's flag. But in a statement to Mrs. Blair's solicitors, McDonald's said if someone used the Mc prefix, even unintentionally, they were using something that does not belong to them.[13]
MacDonald's (UK - Cayman Islands)Edit
McDonald's filed a lawsuit against MacDonald's Family Restaurant, located in Grand Cayman. McDonald's lost the case, and in addition, was banned from ever opening a McDonald's location on Grand Cayman. This ruling still stands today.
McAllan (Denmark)Edit
In 1996, McDonald's lost a legal battle at the*Danish Supreme Court*to force Allan Pedersen, a hotdog vendor, to drop his shop name*McAllan.[14]*Pedersen had previously visited Scotland on*whisky tasting*tours. He named his business after his favorite brand of whisky, MacAllan's, after contacting the distillery to see if they would object. They did not, but McDonald's did. However, the court ruled customers could tell the difference between a one-man vendor and a multi-national chain and ordered McDonald's to pay 40,000 kroner ($6,900) in court costs. The verdict cannot be appealed.
McCurry (Malaysia)Edit
In 2001, McDonald's sued a small restaurant named*McCurry, a popular eatery serving Indian food in*Jalan Ipoh,*Kuala Lumpur,*Malaysia. McDonald's claimed that the use of the "Mc" prefix infringed its trademark, while the defendant claimed that McCurry stood for*Malaysian Chicken Curry.
In 2006, McDonald's won an initial judgment in the*High Court. The judge ruled that the prefix Mc and the use of colours distinctive of the McDonald's brand could confuse and deceive customers.[15]*In April 2009, however, a three-member*Appeal Court*panel overturned the verdict, saying that there was no evidence to show that McCurry was passing off its own product as that of McDonald's. The Appeals Court also said that McDonald's cannot claim an exclusive right to the "Mc" prefix in the country. McDonald's appealed the decision to the*Federal Court, the highest court in Malaysia. In September 2009, the Federal Court upheld the Appeal Court's decision. McDonald's appeal was dismissed with costs, and was ordered to pay RM10,000 to McCurry.[16][17]
South African trademark lawEdit
Apartheid*politics had prevented earlier expansion into South Africa, but as the apartheid regime came to an end in the early 1990s, McDonald's decided to expand there. The company had already recognized South Africa as a potentially significant market and had registered its name as a trademark there in 1968.
Under South African law, trademarks cease to be the property of a company if they are not used for a certain amount of time. McDonald's had renewed the 1968 registration several times, but missed a renewal deadline. The registration expired and McDonald’s discovered two fast food restaurants in South Africa were trading under the name MacDonalds. Moreover, a businessman had applied to register the McDonald’s name.
Multiple lawsuits were filed. The fast food chain was stunned when the court ruled it had lost the rights to its world-famous name in South Africa. However, the company eventually won on appeal.[18]
The real Ronald McDonald (US)Edit
The company waged an unsuccessful 32-year legal action against McDonald's Family Restaurant which was opened by a man legally named Ronald McDonald in*Fairbury, Illinois*in 1956.[19]*Mr. McDonald ultimately continued to use his name on his restaurant, despite objections by McDonald's.[20]
The McBrat case (Australia)Edit
In 2005, McDonald’s tried to stop a Queensland lawyer, Malcolm McBratney, from using the name 'McBrat' on the shorts of the*Brisbane Irish Rugby*team. McDonald’s claimed the McBrat name should not be registered because it was too similar to its McKids trade mark, since the word 'brat' is another term for 'kid'. McBratney, a solicitor specialising in trademarks and intellectual property, argued that his family name had been used in Ireland since the 1600s, and that he had a right to use an abbreviation of that name. In 2006, the Delegate of the Register of Trade Marks held that McBratney could register 'McBrat' as a trademark and that McDonald's had no intellectual property rights over 'Mc' and 'Mac' prefixed words.[21]
McBratney, who specialises in intellectual property law, then brought a suit against McDonald's for its registration, in Australia in 1987, of 'McKids'.[citation needed]*This trademark had never been used in Australia and can therefore be removed for non-use.[citation needed]
attila
1997 Club
In the spirit of 97 - tell 'em to piss off.
Oh ok, I didn't know that.
Goldstone Rapper
Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Nearly 500 videos there! Would be great.