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[Albion] Just how good is Hürzeler?







Kalimantan Gull

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A bit of lost in translation here I suspect. @Han Solo means that after only 12 EPL games under his belt, he has less on his CV than any other manager*.

You of course recognize that along with his total lack of achievement is his total lack of failure.

And given that we are 5th, who gives a f*** about his CV.

The table doesn't lie.

Mind you, that orange twerp who had Hull in second at Christmas in his first season as an EPL manager turned out to be a plum.

So you are both right - Fab is the least* successful EPL manager historically, but he is the 5th best manager at the moment.

*Er, apart from the Stains and Ipswich managers.
The Chelsea manager is equally least successful EPL manager historically, but the 3rd best manager at the moment. And the Liverpool manager is also equally least successful but the best manager at the moment. Newbies doing well
 
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Flounce

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It would have been interesting to see if RDZ would have got “found out” if he had the players FH currently has at his disposal when we hit an injury crisis and extra European games last season. We’ll never know and I pray FH doesn’t just lose interest if we hit bad form and enough key players get injured period this season, to hamper playing a competitive style.

Also interesting that we are up there for the most injuries so far this season in the PL but still had enough strength in depth to field strong sides. RDZ did not have that luxury.

We won’t know how good FH is until the end of the season, but it looks promising to me.
 
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Hiheidi

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Not diminishing the achievements this season but it might be more meaningful to compare the results with 2022/23 when we weren’t competing for Europe and had half the squad on a physio couch. 🤷🏻‍♂️

By my maths we are exactly on par with the 22/23 season. Different results, but same total points from the same set of fixtures.

Everton (a): 22/23 season: W, This season: W, Points diff; 0
Man Utd (h): 22/23 season: W, This season: W, Points diff; 0
Arsenal (a): 22/23 season: W, This season: D, Points diff; -2
Forest (h): 22/23 season: D, This season: D, Points diff; 0
Chelsea (a): 22/23 season: W, This season: L, Points diff; -3
Spurs (h): 22/23 season: L, This season: W, Points diff; +3
Newcastle (a): 22/23 season: L, This season: W, Points diff; +3
Wolves (h): 22/23 season: W, This season: D, Points diff; -2
Liverpool (a): 22/23 season: D, This season: L, Points diff; -1
Man City (h): 22/23 season: D, This season: W, Points diff; +2
Bournemouth (a): 22/23 season: W, This season: W, Points diff; 0
 




Hiheidi

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In the vein of comparing this season's results to comparable ones last season and the season before, we'll need 7 points from the next four fixtures to keep up.

22/23 +7
Southampton (H) win +3
Fulham (A) lose 0
Leicester (A) draw +1
Palace (H) win +3

23/24 +5
Southampton, replaced with Sheffield Utd (H) draw +1
Fulham (A) lose 0
Leicester, replaced with Burnley (A) draw +1
Palace (H) win +3
 


Right Brain Ronnie

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The jury still out, I confessed I only saw the 2nd half tonight and we were lethargic, poor, unmotivated. The worse 45 mins I have seen for a long time, little to no movement. We need Hinsh and Baleba back soon.
Fab didn't know what to do, let's hope he learns from that.
 








Han Solo

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Dunno how he manages to get into a fight with Russell Martin other than through being a shite loser. Its like swearing at your Golden Retriever because you missed the bus. Martin appeared to say GG after the game and Hurz decided it was time to go to monkeytown because he got done today. A little silly.

They play most of the game 3v2 (Dibling, Archer, Sugawara) on the right side against Igor and Pervis and our solution is to give up the wing. Almost bad on the left where Armstrong and Manning are often 2v1 vs van Hecke. Same "solution" there is to just give Manning all the time and space he wants.

We needed a change of shape and got it way too late. I blame the 1-0 lead for the reluctance to interfer with things but I think if Hurz could relive the day he'd make a bit different decisions.
 


sussex_guy2k2

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Dunno how he manages to get into a fight with Russell Martin other than through being a shite loser. Its like swearing at your Golden Retriever because you missed the bus. Martin appeared to say GG after the game and Hurz decided it was time to go to monkeytown because he got done today. A little silly.

They play most of the game 3v2 (Dibling, Archer, Sugawara) on the right side against Igor and Pervis and our solution is to give up the wing. Almost bad on the left where Armstrong and Manning are often 2v1 vs van Hecke. Same "solution" there is to just give Manning all the time and space he wants.

We needed a change of shape and got it way too late. I blame the 1-0 lead for the reluctance to interfer with things but I think if Hurz could relive the day he'd make a bit different decisions.
He’s been a mixed bag in games so far. I have quite serious concerns over him tactically, but he has shown the ability to adapt, which is positive.

Whatever way we put this together, we’re still second, despite many injuries and the constant changes that come with such injury problems.
 




Eeyore

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He’s been a mixed bag in games so far. I have quite serious concerns over him tactically, but he has shown the ability to adapt, which is positive.

Whatever way we put this together, we’re still second, despite many injuries and the constant changes that come with such injury problems.
I was thinking about this earlier, feeling that our position this year is down to some excellent player recruitment more than tactical astuteness. I just think we have a really good squad these days
 








sussex_guy2k2

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I was thinking about this earlier, feeling that our position this year is down to some excellent player recruitment more than tactical astuteness. I just think we have a really good squad these days
That’s how I feel at the moment. That and I think he’s one of those managers that seems to have luck on his side.
 




Weststander

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They play most of the game 3v2 (Dibling, Archer, Sugawara) on the right side against Igor and Pervis and our solution is to give up the wing. Almost bad on the left where Armstrong and Manning are often 2v1 vs van Hecke. Same "solution" there is to just give Manning all the time and space he wants.

We needed a change of shape and got it way too late. I blame the 1-0 lead for the reluctance to interfer with things but I think if Hurz could relive the day he'd make a bit different decisions.

:bowdown:

I don’t know why FH did fck all about the basement club owning us down both wings. From the very beginning flashing crosses through our 6 yard box. Thankfully to the invisible striker.
 








Bodian

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I don’t know why FH did fck all about the basement club owning us down both wings. From the very beginning flashing crosses through our 6 yard box. Thankfully to the invisible striker.
But I guess if they are just doing pointless crosses to no-one - there is no real reason to stop it. It's harmless.

Goal didn't come that way.
 


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