[Albion] Just how good is Hürzeler?

[Bozza]

Interesting comparison to the same fixtures last season...

By way of coincidence, I was looking at this the other day but, typically, didn't get to complete the work.

However, by my reckoning, there's only one fixture thus far this season where we've done worse than in the corresponding game last season...

Everton (a): Last season: D, This season: W, Points diff; +2
Man Utd (h): Last season: L, This season: W, Points diff; +3
Arsenal (a): Last season: L, This season: D, Points diff; +1
Forest (h): Last season: W, This season: D, Points diff; -2
Chelsea (a): Last season: L, This season: L, Points diff; 0
Spurs (h): Last season: W, This season: W, Points diff; 0
Newcastle (a): Last season: D, This season: W, Points diff; +2
Wolves (h): Last season: D, This season: D, Points diff; 0
Liverpool (a): Last season: L, This season: L, Points diff; 0
Man City (h): Last season: L, This season: W, Points diff; +3
Bournemouth (a): Last season: L, This season: W, Points diff; +3

12 points better off like-for-like.

 

[pigmanovich]

However, by my reckoning, there's not a single fixture thus far this season where we've done worse than the cin the corresponding game last season...

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Forest at home?

 

[Bozza]

Forest at home?

Ah yes. Not sure what I’d done there.

 

[Hiheidi]

Forest at home?

Yes, we won that last season but it was a piss poor game from both teams and we won via an own goal!

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

We're currently overperforming mainly in conceding four fewer goals than expected (our goals scored output is very close to expected). However, only half of this is down to luck (worse than average finishing from the opposition), the other half is down to above average goalkeeping by Verbruggen who is conceding two goals fewer than you would expect from the shots he has faced. So roughly half of our overperformance on xP (and xG) is down to having an excellent keeper (this also doesn't consider his above average distribution).

Yep. Verbruggen is a pretty significant factor in getting us to our current points tally.

Still waiting for @Han Solo’s other data metrics which show we’ve been riding our luck?

 

[Hiheidi]

Tricky one: is it down to the new manager or is it down to the near £200 million investment in players over the Summer? I'm undecided personally: leaning heavily somewhere from 80/20 to 85/15 in favour of the player investment

That would make sense if we were relying heavily on players bought over the Summer, but apart from Rutter, we are not.

Osman (£16m), Yalcouye (£6m) - out on loan
O'Riley (£25m) - 47 minutes
Gruda (£25m) - 59 minutes
Wieffer (£25m) - 260 minutes
Kadioglu (£25m) - 388 minutes
Minteh (£30m) - 407 minutes
Rutter (£40m) - 674 minutes

The most minutes have gone to players that were already on our books: Welbeck, Mitoma, Veltman, Verbruggen, Hinshelwood, Van Hecke, Dunk and Baleba. And you have to factor in the departure of Groß.

 

[pigmanovich]

Yes, we won that last season but it was a piss poor game from both teams and we won via an own goal!

Beside the point, Bozza initially said there hadn't been any fixtures this season where we dropped points compared with last season and Forest at home was one such game.

 

[Hiheidi]

Beside the point, Bozza initially said there hadn't been any fixtures this season where we dropped points compared with last season and Forest at home was one such game.

Yep, I know. Just saying that it wasn't a convincing win.

 

[Machiavelli]

That would make sense if we were relying heavily on players bought over the Summer, but apart from Rutter, we are not.

Osman (£16m), Yalcouye (£6m) - out on loan
O'Riley (£25m) - 47 minutes
Gruda (£25m) - 59 minutes
Wieffer (£25m) - 260 minutes
Kadioglu (£25m) - 388 minutes
Minteh (£30m) - 407 minutes
Rutter (£40m) - 674 minutes

The most minutes have gone to players that were already on our books: Welbeck, Mitoma, Veltman, Verbruggen, Hinshelwood, Van Hecke, Dunk and Baleba. And you have to factor in the departure of Groß.

Spot on and, given the number of minutes played last season, think you'd have to add the departure of Gilmour, as well as Gross.

 

[pigmanovich]

Yep, I know. Just saying that it wasn't a convincing win.

Definitely not

 

[dazzer6666]

Yep. Verbruggen is a pretty significant factor in getting us to our current points tally.

Still waiting for @Han Solo’s other data metrics which show we’ve been riding our luck?

Bart’s around 5th-8th on most of the detailed metrics……

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