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Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition



BLOCK F

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Feb 26, 2009
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If I remember correctly I believe you were a 'traditional' conservative, and probably anti-Brexit, as were most 'traditional' supporters of all major parties. If you had got a sensible politician like Rory Stewart as leader, how many 10s of thousands wouldn't have died, we wouldn't have left the single market and we wouldn't have been where we are now,

It's nothing to do with political parties, it's simple common sense :facepalm:

And IIRC you always though Johnson was an untrustworthy ****

I most certainly was anti Brexit and my heart sank when the poll went the wrong way.
I don’t think Rory Stewart’s time had come to be leader, but who knows, he, or someone akin to him may emerge further down the line and play a major part in politics in the future.
Yes, I was never a fan of Johnson, but regrettably, he has turned out to be far worse than I could have imagined and I am pretty sure that is the view of many others. He really only has an 80 seat majority thanks to Corbyn being Labour leader.
Let us hope that the country is never in a position again to have to choose between such unsuitable (that is the polite version) candidates to be PM.
I really don’t know what the COVID death toll would have been if Johnson had not been PM and it is impossible to say. :thumbsup:
 




Lever

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Feb 6, 2019
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I most certainly was anti Brexit and my heart sank when the poll went the wrong way.
I don’t think Rory Stewart’s time had come to be leader, but who knows, he, or someone akin to him may emerge further down the line and play a major part in politics in the future.
Yes, I was never a fan of Johnson, but regrettably, he has turned out to be far worse than I could have imagined and I am pretty sure that is the view of many others. He really only has an 80 seat majority thanks to Corbyn being Labour leader.
Let us hope that the country is never in a position again to have to choose between such unsuitable (that is the polite version) candidates to be PM.
I really don’t know what the COVID death toll would have been if Johnson had not been PM and it is impossible to say. :thumbsup:

Thank goodness... a (relatively) sensible and balanced tory! (that's a genuine reaction)

I thought Dominic Cummings and Johnson had extracted all but Brexit zealots and sycophants from the Party and its supporters. Apparently not.

Thank you sir
 
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vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
Contempt for the day job, constituents in North Devon hung out to dry...
Journo's will be crawling all over the MPs Register of Interests now and I'm sure there is a lot more to come out... IDS now appearing to have earned some cash in a clear Conflict of Interest regarding sales of hand-wash to the NHS.

The whole rotten house of cards could come down as more and more examples appear.... Especially Johnson's redecoration costs and who paid for them..
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
Journo's will be crawling all over the MPs Register of Interests now and I'm sure there is a lot more to come out... IDS now appearing to have earned some cash in a clear Conflict of Interest regarding sales of hand-wash to the NHS.

The whole rotten house of cards could come down as more and more examples appear.... Especially Johnson's redecoration costs and who paid for them..

Has the potential to make the MP's expenses scandal look like a vicars tea party...
 
















A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Good news, everyone. Cox has found the people who are really to blame. Turns out it's the electorate.

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vegster

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May 5, 2008
28,273
Johnson's claim that "The UK is not Remotely Corrupt" will be quickly put to the test once the 5 G network is fully up and running. Then you will be able to get much easier cash access to government.
 


nicko31

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Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Johnson's claim that "The UK is not Remotely Corrupt" will be quickly put to the test once the 5 G network is fully up and running. Then you will be able to get much easier cash access to government.

I’m not sure they do highlights of Question Time but the take down of Johnson last night was astonishing. There seemed to be only one man in the room willing to back Johnson…..and it wasn’t his boss from the Times.

The PM was ripped apart. It was a blood bath led by a quite brilliant tirade or two from Alistair Campbell. All focused on Johnson being unfit to be PM because of self interest, sleaze and incompetence. Statements like ‘he is not a nice person’ hit the bullseye as the audience cheered in agreement. What a massacre and what a reminder to those who voted this ***t in what a life changing mistake they made.

The poor weasel faced Tory Whip Lee Rowley just looked stunned and beaten most of the time, he could not fashion an argument to defend the man who’d asked him to fly kamikaze into this programme.

In Hartlepool, clearly the audience was packed with regular labour voters and voters who recently voted Tory allowing the seat to turn blue………this sample audience would suggest those Tory voters will be reverting to red next time.
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
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Bloody Worthing!
I’m not sure they do highlights of Question Time but the take down of Johnson last night was astonishing. There seemed to be only one man in the room willing to back Johnson…..and it wasn’t his boss from the Times.

The PM was ripped apart. It was a blood bath led by a quite brilliant tirade or two from Alistair Campbell. All focused on Johnson being unfit to be PM because of self interest, sleaze and incompetence. Statements like ‘he is not a nice person’ hit the bullseye as the audience cheered in agreement. What a massacre and what a reminder to those who voted this ***t in what a life changing mistake they made.

The poor weasel faced Tory Whip Lee Rowley just looked stunned and beaten most of the time, he could not fashion an argument to defend the man who’d asked him to fly kamikaze into this programme.

In Hartlepool, clearly the audience was packed with regular labour voters and voters who recently voted Tory allowing the seat to turn blue………this sample audience would suggest those Tory voters will be reverting to red next time.

Thanks for the heads-up on this. I'm going to watch on catch up. BTW Campbell was very good on the Daily Politics earlier this week: he totally duffed up the terminally smug Tim Loughton.
 


Randy McNob

> > > > > > Cardiff > > > > >
Jun 13, 2020
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Well I think it's just too easy to be cheaply cynical. Indeed I'd go as far to say that we've got the best politicians that money can buy.

I don't think its an issue of pay but the types of people that become politicians, usually public school over privileged elites who live in a different world. Success to them is more about how much they can milk the system then making a better society. Alot of Tories are already millionaires like Rishi Sunak, he doesn't even need his salary
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
Thanks for the heads-up on this. I'm going to watch on catch up. BTW Campbell was very good on the Daily Politics earlier this week: he totally duffed up the terminally smug Tim Loughton.
It really does not take much to put one over on Loughton though! Fish in a barrel!
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,953
Surrey
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So that's two Tory scandals in a week.


But, but "A GREEN POLITICIAN TOOK AN AEROPLANE!!!" (c) [MENTION=534]Chicken Run[/MENTION]
 


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