Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition

[BLOCK F]

The frustrating thing is Labour finally have a leader with real stature and credibility, yet he'll have to wait until 2024 to get a shot at running the country.

Well, he's obviously a huge improvement on Corbyn, but as yet, does anyone, Labour or Conservative voter have the first idea of what his policies might look like? Of course, it is very early days, but in due course , I look forward to hearing more from him and his Shadow Cabinet members.
I have to say that ,as a Tory voter, the thought of him as PM doesn't frighten me like Corbyn did.
PS.I wonder what the world will look like in 2024.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I certainly haven't protected Boris and am not a supporter in any sense. I'm up for a reasoned debate but there's too much shit being spoken and written currently which actually detracts from the real issues. This is story is an irrelevance, it is costed, and many would say a country this wealthy should have transport for its top officials including the head of state.

I was an aircraft engineer for BCal and BA but have worked on military contracts such as the RAF and the American Airforce KC10 refuellers during the first Gulf War. I also worked on aircraft that were converted for royal use, particularly the one used for Charles and Diana on their honeymoon.

Changing the colour scheme on aircraft isn't uncommon, during in Gulf Wars the aircraft were all painted, however as soon as the airport was safe charter aircraft from a number of companies were used and they would have been any colour known to man.

I doubt very much the plane in question is used or indeed needed to be used as a refueller during normal operations but has the capacity to be used. Think of it as a road gritter, sits there for 11 months of the year but when needed hopefully works! Using it for another purpose could arguably be getting better use of assets.

Keep bringing up anything to bash the government is as inane as those saying Corbyn is a commie, racist or just a deluded old man and it would have been worse if he was in PM. It deflects from the real issues. One reason why I've stopped in the main from posting on these threads as it's the same crap being posted by the same people.

Much respect for you being an Aircraft Engineer, highly skilled job, and anyone else in Engineering out there.
I remember in the 90's I applied for an apprenticeship with BA, Aircraft Engineer, you can imagine how many people applied for the job. I didn't stand a chance.

 

[Chicken Run]

I take your point entirely (whole post), the problem for me is more one of how out of touch they really are - Is this really a good time to get a nice new paint job on a jet? It may well be something that was already commissioned but certainly could have been postponed. Rightly or wrongly, many will see at as a cynical move, a deflection one may say - One which you have alluded to. See moving DFID in to the FCO.

Agreed and a fair point we’ll made.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Much respect for you being an Aircraft Engineer, highly skilled job, and anyone else in Engineering out there.
I remember in the 90's I applied for an apprenticeship with BA, Aircraft Engineer, you can imagine how many people applied for the job.

Thanks, I left the industry a number of years ago to follow a passion, I'm now a quality manger for brewery,

 

[CHAPPERS]

This awful.

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Most likely a distraction but this is desperate even then.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Boris Bannon the buffoon has attracted swift condemnations from three out of the past four PMs (what's all the dither and delay about, Theresa May?) for his playing-to-the-gallery decision to merge DfID with the FO. Is this the low point? They couldn't plummet further, could they? Those two questions will have to await an answer but, for the moment, a slightly different question is posed in the poll, and an option has been offered just so we can be inclusive to the sycophants.

More to the point, how awful is ANY government? We moan and whinge and whine about the current one and have done it for a lifetime. Boris is a Buffoon, May is a ditherer, Blair lied, etc., etc., etc. It just gives us something to moan about.

 

[Chicken Run]

Several medics on Twitter are saying it

Oh well you should of said it’s been mentioned on Twitter [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Lenny Rider]

But are they doing better than a Labour government would be?

 

[Chicken Run]

There are other ways beyond joining up, to serve your country, and its people.

I’m actually aware of that thank you very much[emoji57]

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Maybe I'm struggling to understand the concept ?

All governments have an amount of crapness about them.

Johnson's - Shit
May's - Doubly shit
Cameron's ( 2nd stint ) - mildly shit
Cameron's ( coalition ) - only just shit
Brown's -very very shit
Blair ( 3rd Term ) - very shit
Blair ( 2nd Term ) very very very shit
Blair ( 1st Term ) - OK
Major - OK ish

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It needs to be approved for this rather new virus that has popped up, I’d normally expect better research from you before spouting off.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061281

The first drug proven to cut deaths from Covid-19 is not some new, expensive medicine but an old, cheap-as-chips steroid.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Well, he's obviously a huge improvement on Corbyn, but as yet, does anyone, Labour or Conservative voter have the first idea of what his policies might look like? Of course, it is very early days, but in due course , I look forward to hearing more from him and his Shadow Cabinet members.
I have to say that ,as a Tory voter, the thought of him as PM doesn't frighten me like Corbyn did.
PS.I wonder what the world will look like in 2024.

Why do people keep saying he has no policies when a five second Google gives you this?

https://keirstarmer.com/plans/10-pledges/

 

[Chicken Run]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061281

The first drug proven to cut deaths from Covid-19 is not some new, expensive medicine but an old, cheap-as-chips steroid.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Corbyn is a communist.

My Political CV

I have a MA Degree in politics from one of the top 5 PAIS Universities in the world.
I have run for elected office twice and won both times.

I also agree that Boris isn’t PM material atm. He won’t be in charge by the next election.

I’m pretty shocked that despite your qualifications, you still label Corbyn as a Communist. He might be influenced by Marxism (which is an impossible ideal) like his former showdown chancellor, but only someone very ignorant of political philosophies or with a political agenda could label the man as a Communist.

The big difference between Communism and Socialism is democracy. Like it or not (and please do your research on this), Corbyn is a profound democrat, this led to a huge amount of dithering in the last parliament as he went for consultation rather than decisiveness on issues such as Brexit and Anti-Semtism; he showed very weak leadership.

Communism always ends up as a corruption of ideals and leads to undemocratic authoritarianism or dictatorship. Corbyn is profoundly against that sort of governance.

I’m well used to uneducated people labelling Corbyn as a Communist but you really need to do some reading about this as you’ve embarrassed yourself.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

This awful.

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Most likely a distraction but this is desperate even then.

More patronising guff from a minor grade light entertainer. He's probably mentioning Australia in celebration of the second anniversary of the EU-Australia trade talks - they're a long way ahead of us and Australia has made it clear that concluding the EU agreement is a priority.

Good country though, Australia, with an economy around the size of Spain's. Funny to think that Spain is just one the 27 countries we're talking about ending a trade agreement with.

 

[nicko31]

Why do people keep saying he has no policies when a five second Google gives you this?

https://keirstarmer.com/plans/10-pledges/

Come on Kier, are you expecting the British public to vote for things in their own interests?

 

[LlcoolJ]

Come on Kier, are you expecting the British public to vote for things in their own interests?

Communist madness.

 

[sydney]

i haven't read back as usual but i would say that the standard of material of governance has gone down by 30-35 % in the last 30 years .......i think that honkey reckons he's the best thing since sliced bread and that he would never be out manoeuvred by another entity , after all its his game , he invented it (the westminster system) and if folk won't play by his rules they can jolly well sod off.......well , unfortunately some mofo has put ky all over the jenga pieces and poor old sausage finger can't even manage to stay in his seat ......we are no longer the bees knees in global politics , far from it unfortunately but ****in hey ho , such is life , get a grip , try not to piss yourself about things that really annoy you , that way you will have a happy , fulfilling life .......said no-one , ever.....cluster****mediacontrolledbellenderryofthehighestorder......wakey wakey..

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Why do people keep saying he has no policies when a five second Google gives you this?

https://keirstarmer.com/plans/10-pledges/

Thanks for that. I'd not seen it before. It's fairly radical!

 

[nicko31]

More patronising guff from a minor grade light entertainer. He's probably mentioning Australia in celebration of the second anniversary of the EU-Australia trade talks - they're a long way ahead of us and Australia has made it clear that concluding the EU agreement is a priority.

Good country though, Australia, with an economy around the size of Spain's. Funny to think that Spain is just one the 27 countries we're talking about ending a trade agreement with.

I guess an FTA with a rich country far away is better than one with a poor country far away

They do a good line in hormone beef as well, their Mangos are nice though