Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition

[Deleted member 22389]

Many people are just happy to be returning to some sort of normality, thankful the government stepped up to help out businesses and cover peoples wages when it really mattered. I really don't know what more the government can do considering the circumstances.

 

[The Clamp]

Many people are just happy to be returning to some sort of normality, thankful the government stepped up to help out businesses and cover peoples wages when it really mattered. I really don't know what more the government can do considering the circumstances.

Perhaps the relatives of the tens of thousands of the dead who arguably died as a result of the government messing up with care homes and hesitating to put the country into lockdown, who won’t be returning to normality would be the ones to ask what more the government could have done?

Perhaps ask the families of the dead NHS workers who had no PPE because the government refused help procuring the equipment, instead giving the contracts to private companies who couldn’t deliver?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Perhaps the relatives of the tens of thousands of the dead who arguably died as a result of the government messing up with care homes and hesitating to put the country into lockdown, who won’t be returning to normality would be the ones to ask what more the government could have done?

Perhaps ask the families of the dead NHS workers who had no PPE because the government refused help procuring the equipment, instead giving the contracts to private companies who couldn’t deliver?

I thought the thread was about how well the government are doing now, that's all.

 

[Chicken Run]

It’s a free country and you can do as you please. Although I’d rather take advice from someone who has worked in ICU on a covid ward and in her words It was like WW3 at the height of the pandemic.

I’ve no reason to doubt you, where was this? One of my customers who works at RSCH in the Kemp Tower said their Covid facilities were never more than 60% used and in some cases returned some of the seconded teams back to their original unit’s.

 

[The Clamp]

I thought the thread was about how well the government are doing now, that's all.

Those people are still dead now, I believe.

 

[Gwylan]

I can't unsee this now - although 'Gina' Williamson is strangely attractive

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[Kuipers Supporters Club]

If you genuinely think Corbyn was/ is a communist then you clearly know nothing about politics.

Corbyn is a communist.

My Political CV

I have a MA Degree in politics from one of the top 5 PAIS Universities in the world.
I have run for elected office twice and won both times.

I also agree that Boris isn’t PM material atm. He won’t be in charge by the next election.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Some cannot get over it

And what's more, they are constantly talking this country down .

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Corbyn is a communist.

My Political CV

I have a MA Degree in politics from one of the top 5 PAIS Universities in the world.
I have run for elected office twice and won both times.

I also agree that Boris isn’t PM material atm. He won’t be in charge by the next election.

Rather than your qualifications (which, I'm sure, are very nice), what qualifies Corbyn as a communist?

I am prepared to accept he qualifies as a useless idiot.
And he also qualifies as 'irrelevant now; like Neil Kinnock he is a former leader of the labour party'.
But . . . .well......over to you.

This thread, incidentally, has been brilliantly derailed by the whataboutery of 'tory wankers'. We communists bite far too easily, it seems. .

 

[Lower West Stander]

Many people are just happy to be returning to some sort of normality, thankful the government stepped up to help out businesses and cover peoples wages when it really mattered. I really don't know what more the government can do considering the circumstances.

That was the easy bit though.

Chuck money at people and scare the shit out of everyone telling them not to go out. With obvious exceptions, it was easy to look good in this scenario.

Much harder now. Taking money off people and encouraging them to go out, whilst at the same time coming out with a load of muddled nonsense about what you can and cannot do.

This will be the real test - and they are failing miserably at the moment imho

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

A Tory could go around shooting people in the knees, as a policy and the dicks would still go “At least it’s no Corbyn” the thick duckers”

There you go again. Another one talking the country down.


















Do I need to signal that I'm being ironic somehow? Which emoji? Oh well. I'll wait and see if any of the goons give this or my other post a thrumbsup.

 

[WilburySeagull]

Corbyn is a communist.

My Political CV

I have a MA Degree in politics from one of the top 5 PAIS Universities in the world.
I have run for elected office twice and won both times.

I also agree that Boris isn’t PM material atm. He won’t be in charge by the next election.

If you have qualifications as you say (and I have no reason to doubt you) you should know that evidence is required to make statements about Corbyn or anyone else and also provide a definition of what your definition of communist is. It would also be relevant for you to explain where you sit in the political spectrum to judge any bias.

So you are aware of my position I sit in the comfort of the Starmer section of labour for now.

I hope you are not using communist as a smear just as I deplore the use of facist as a smear in the other direction.

 

[blue-shifted]

Corbyn is a communist.

My Political CV

I have a MA Degree in politics from one of the top 5 PAIS Universities in the world.
I have run for elected office twice and won both times.

I also agree that Boris isn’t PM material atm. He won’t be in charge by the next election.

Hmmm

communism.
NOUN
a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs

Corbyn ran his election campaign on all property being owned by the community? Where was your degree from did you say?

 

[daveinplzen]

Many people are just happy to be returning to some sort of normality, thankful the government stepped up to help out businesses and cover peoples wages when it really mattered. I really don't know what more the government can do considering the circumstances.

They had time to prepare and did **** all. When this country locked down and declared a state of emergency, along with other European countries, the British governments advice to the country was, 'wash your hands, and let the Cheltenham Racing festival and a Euro football match in Liverpool go ahead. They could have done MUCH more.

 

[lawros left foot]

Corbyn is a communist.

My Political CV

I have a MA Degree in politics from one of the top 5 PAIS Universities in the world.
I have run for elected office twice and won both times.

I also agree that Boris isn’t PM material atm. He won’t be in charge by the next election.

You are Michael Gove, and I claim my £5.

 

[lawros left foot]

Will this be the next Government u- turn?

If it isn’t, it should be.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

They had time to prepare and did **** all. When this country locked down and declared a state of emergency, along with other European countries, the British governments advice to the country was, 'wash your hands, and let the Cheltenham Racing festival and a Euro football match in Liverpool go ahead. They could have done MUCH more.

I wholeheartedly agree that much more could, and should have been done, however the constant lazy reference to Cheltenham and a football match in Liverpool pales into insignificance compared to the 5 million London Underground Journeys made in the same week - a week when the London Major cut back on the number of tubes running and Tube stations opening.

 

[A1X]

I have run for elected office twice and won both times.

Running for office doesn't mean you understand political ideologies.

 

[daveinplzen]

I wholeheartedly agree that much more could, and should have been done, however the constant lazy reference to Cheltenham and a football match in Liverpool pales into insignificance compared to the 5 million London Underground Journeys made in the same week - a week when the London Major cut back on the number of tubes running and Tube stations opening.

When the lockdown started here, you could only use metro & other public transport with your face covered, backed up by hefty fines for non-compliance. Transport was also sprayed with disinfectants and drivers were separated from passengers by some distance. I think the UK was more worried about the economics rather than public safety. Were face coverings enforced on the tube? I genuinely dont know. If not, well words fail me.

 

[lawros left foot]

When the lockdown started here, you could only use metro & other public transport with your face covered, backed up by hefty fines for non-compliance. Pretty much the same as other countries. Were face coverings enforced on the tube? I genuinely dont know. If not, well words fail me.

Yes, masks are now compulsory.



As of Monday, 15th June.