Just how awful is this government? June 2020 edition

[BLOCK F]

It's encouraging to read your story of defiance which clearly helped you to survive.

Implicitly it suggests that the experience threatened to be damaging and the thrust of the article is that many people who endured such dislocation from family are psychologically ill suited to leadership, but paradoxically are 'shaped' to seek it as their role in life. Beard's thesis is entirely plausible and in my opinion gives an insight into the psychology of our last two old Etonian PMs who have 'misled' this country into such a parlous state. I hope you can agree....

Hi Lever,
There are no doubt a number of people who were sufficiently damaged by the experience to render them Ill suited to leadership, but conversely, there are plenty who survived intact who have made their mark as successful leaders in many spheres of life, not necessarily politics.Additionally, there are others who have gone about their lives in a quiet unassuming way and have turned out to be worthy members of society.
I tend to think Beard overstates his case and thankfully, not everyone who went to boarding school turns out to be a Boris Johnson. You may note from a previous post that I am not a fan and think the man is a disgrace and totally unsuited to be PM of this country. How much of that is down to his boarding school experience, not much I would suggest. I think he would be a shitehouse wherever he was educated.
PS. I am no great defender of public schools and my ‘alma mater’ gets short shrift from me when it seeks a donation from me to help pay for its latest vanity project.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Tories right in meltdown over face masks and vaccine passports to protect public health

Never mind their new laws that attack peaceful protest and the human rights act

Freedom eh...

It is an amazing contradiction isn't it. We want to bring in bills to restrict protest, freedom of speech, reduce human rights. We have already done away with freedom of movement, and want to restrict the right to travel and work abroad, and yet suggest a rule to wear a face mark and my liberties are being infringed!? Swiveled eyed loonies. Even those firmly entrenched in the right of center MUST be having their reservations about this lot. It's all getting very uncomfortable.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

It is an amazing contradiction isn't it. We want to bring in bills to restrict protest, freedom of speech, reduce human rights. We have already done away with freedom of movement, and want to restrict the right to travel and work abroad, and yet suggest a rule to wear a face mark and my liberties are being infringed!? Swiveled eyed loonies. Even those firmly entrenched in the right of center MUST be having their reservations about this lot. It's all getting very uncomfortable.

Just seen the sinister and frankly awful Raab on TV justifying sweeping away the Human Rights Act by talking (gibberish) about a 'common sense' and 'British' approach. This is scary. I can imagine similar words coming out of the mouths of dictators.
If this goes through we'll be an outlier (or in Johnson's case an outright liar) in Europe. Again.
What is happening in this country?

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Hi Lever,
There are no doubt a number of people who were sufficiently damaged by the experience to render them Ill suited to leadership, but conversely, there are plenty who survived intact who have made their mark as successful leaders in many spheres of life, not necessarily politics.Additionally, there are others who have gone about their lives in a quiet unassuming way and have turned out to be worthy members of society.
I tend to think Beard overstates his case and thankfully, not everyone who went to boarding school turns out to be a Boris Johnson. You may note from a previous post that I am not a fan and think the man is a disgrace and totally unsuited to be PM of this country. How much of that is down to his boarding school experience, not much I would suggest. I think he would be a shitehouse wherever he was educated.
PS. I am no great defender of public schools and my ‘alma mater’ gets short shrift from me when it seeks a donation from me to help pay for its latest vanity project.

A very balanced response if I may say so. I grew up on a council estate and when I went to uni ended up sharing a house with two guys who'd been to Christ's Hospital. They were by no means bad lads, but there was always this feeling of disconnection between them and me - as if we'd grown up in parallel Englands. Of course, it could have been that it was wholly down to me!
There are public school and public schools and I would guess that the likes of Eton would produce the extreme version of the syndrome that Beard was writing about? But I agree: Johnson would have been a weapons grade tool wherever he was educated.

 

[Lever]

Hi Lever,
There are no doubt a number of people who were sufficiently damaged by the experience to render them Ill suited to leadership, but conversely, there are plenty who survived intact who have made their mark as successful leaders in many spheres of life, not necessarily politics.Additionally, there are others who have gone about their lives in a quiet unassuming way and have turned out to be worthy members of society.
I tend to think Beard overstates his case and thankfully, not everyone who went to boarding school turns out to be a Boris Johnson. You may note from a previous post that I am not a fan and think the man is a disgrace and totally unsuited to be PM of this country. How much of that is down to his boarding school experience, not much I would suggest. I think he would be a shitehouse wherever he was educated.
PS. I am no great defender of public schools and my ‘alma mater’ gets short shrift from me when it seeks a donation from me to help pay for its latest vanity project.

Thank you for your balanced and fair response. I appreciate it.

Maybe it is those who come to accept (consciously or otherwise) the Public School 'hidden curriculum' who are the greatest danger; those who like Cameron and Johnston went on to become members of such self serving clubs as the Bullingdon Club.

I may have missed something but on no occasion that I can recall has either one mentioned the importance of 'public service' in the role that their exalted position has brought them; and of course by their actions they have both taken a wrecking ball to the unity and economy of this country....

 

[nicko31]

Just seen the sinister and frankly awful Raab on TV justifying sweeping away the Human Rights Act by talking (gibberish) about a 'common sense' and 'British' approach. This is scary. I can imagine similar words coming out of the mouths of dictators.
If this goes through we'll be an outlier (or in Johnson's case an outright liar) in Europe. Again.
What is happening in this country?

British approach, what the f**k does that mean?

Wonder what Winston Churchill would make of it?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

British approach, what the f**k does that mean?

Wonder what Winston Churchill would make of it?

It means keeping non British people who have no rights to be in the UK out of the country

Regards
DF

 

[WATFORD zero]

It means keeping non British people who have no rights to be in the UK out of the country

Regards
DF

You really don't get it, do you ? The sole intention of this is to garner votes from people who have a shit life, are angry about it and aren't too bright. Then after these people have voted, and they actually find out that they have made the situation worse, they will get increasingly anGRY ABOUT IT AND START POSTING IN CAPITALS (TWICE )

Rinse and repeat

 

[Lever]

Just seen the sinister and frankly awful Raab on TV justifying sweeping away the Human Rights Act by talking (gibberish) about a 'common sense' and 'British' approach. This is scary. I can imagine similar words coming out of the mouths of dictators.
If this goes through we'll be an outlier (or in Johnson's case an outright liar) in Europe. Again.
What is happening in this country?

Beware of references to 'Common Sense' (as well as the meaningless but jingoistic 'British way'). 'Common sense' is a term often used to suggest that:- 'everyone should know and subscribe to this' and 'it doesn't require scrutiny'. The first named is presumptuous, the second is just a tactic......

 

[nicko31]

What did MP Marcus Fysh say yesterday about Nazi Germany?

Think we have more in come under the Vote Leave government than he thinks...

 

[nicko31]

It means keeping non British people who have no rights to be in the UK out of the country

Regards
DF

14% are our resident population are foreign nationals and almost of them have every right to be here.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

14% are our resident population are foreign nationals and almost of them have every right to be here.

That's OK then, it's the one's that haven't who need to be moved on

Regards
DF

 

[Lever]

What did MP Marcus Fysh say yesterday about Nazi Germany?

Think we have more in come under the Vote Leave government than he thinks...

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We're moving inexorably in that direction; it's getting to the point where concerned citizens need to act.... surely in a democracy it is the duty of all ethical people to make a stand against repressive government.

 

[nicko31]

We're moving inexorably in that direction; it's getting to the point where concerned citizens need to act.... surely in a democracy it is the duty of all ethical people to make a stand against repressive government.

There 14 signs of early fascism, I'd say we're seeing 11 or 12 from this government.

We're in a pretty dangerous place, the system is under attack from all sides. If someone told me all this would happening a decade ago I wouldn't have believe them

 

[Motogull]

Beware of references to 'Common Sense' (as well as the meaningless but jingoistic 'British way'). 'Common sense' is a term often used to suggest that:- 'everyone should know and subscribe to this' and 'it doesn't require scrutiny'. The first named is presumptuous, the second is just a tactic......

In this instance I think you'll find that 'common sense' means 'I don't really understand'. He's thick but as he speaks posh people think he's well clever. A bit like the waistcoatwanker.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

96 Tory MPs voted against the three line whip tonight, 36 didn’t vote of which only 19 were authorised,
That’s quite a rebellion against the government.

 

[Randy McNob]

I think Johnsons week is gonna get a whole lot worse

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[rogersix]

It means keeping non British people who have no rights to be in the UK out of the country

Regards
DF

this is wa-hay over your head, this fact must be starting to dawn on you by now

 

[rogersix]

That's OK then, it's the one's that haven't who need to be moved on

Regards
DF

how would you suggest that, that may happen?

do you see what i mean? you don't get this

 

[Randy McNob]

stop facism in the UK