[Misc] Jury Service

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Decent chance also that they plead guilty at the last minute

 

[Is it PotG?]

When I did it those not selected simply stayed for the next draw.............may well be more than one case starting on the day

Indeed, it depends if there is one 'mega-case' or a few lesser ones.

The example I gave was for a + 4 weeker I think.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If to defer, I assume that's to be available for another case and not the one youre currently scheduled to be a juror on?

If that's the case, as much as its still a Ball ache, could you volunteer availability during school summer holiday, when school run and Albion fixtures aren't an issue?

You don't get called to a particular case, but go into the juror's room where you may get assigned a case or not.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

If to defer, I assume that's to be available for another case and not the one youre currently scheduled to be a juror on?

If that's the case, as much as its still a Ball ache, could you volunteer availability during school summer holiday, when school run and Albion fixtures aren't an issue?

Unless it's changed much for B&H in the past couple of years, you don't get scheduled in advance to be a juror on an individual case. You get called up as part of a pool of thirty or so jurors to cover a ten day period. Then, when you get there, they draw numbers out of a hat to decide who sits on the jury for a particular case

 

[Is it PotG?]

I certainly wouldn't put 'Brentford away' in the space marked 'Reason for Deferral'.

 

[MJsGhost]

If to defer, I assume that's to be available for another case and not the one youre currently scheduled to be a juror on?

Nobody is called up with a specific case in mind.

It's to be part of a pool of jurors (there will be more than needed) who are assigned to cases (or not) as and when new ones start.

It's essentially just a conveyor belt of eligible jurors organised way in advance, who get pot luck over the case(s) they are assigned to.

 

[dazzer6666]

Nobody is called up with a specific case in mind.

It's to be part of a pool of jurors (there will be more than needed) who are assigned to cases (or not) as and when new ones start.

It's essentially just a conveyor belt of eligible jurors organised way in advance, who get pot luck over the case(s) they are assigned to.

This - at the time of selection (will be loads in the 'waiting room') you have no idea what you're being selected for - don't think you find out until after the jury has been selected (initially 15 I thought in our cases - which I assume is normal - all 15 then went into court and the names of those involved were read out to see if anyone had any 'conflicts'), then it's reduced to the final 12. You're sworn in and only then are the charges are read out. My understanding is if the case is expected to be longer than two weeks this will be explained at the time of selection and if that's a problem you may be excused from that particular ballot. You are liable to be called up at any point during your two week stint - new cases start all the time and not always to a defined timetable

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

I've just read it again - you have to explain your reason(s) if you ask for another date.

I think if you say you're going to be out of the Country they wil accept that.

 

[MJsGhost]

When I did it those not selected simply stayed for the next draw.............may well be more than one case starting on the day

This.

I was even transferred from Hove to Lewes one day on my first jury service as they were slightly short of options there compared to Hove (and then didn't get picked there).

The longer into the 2 weeks you go, the more likely you'll be stood down rather than asked to hang around as there's less chance they can guarantee the next case will wrap up before the end of your scheduled 2 weeks.

 

[dazzer6666]

This.

I was even transferred from Hove to Lewes one day on my first jury service as they were slightly short of options there compared to Hove (and then didn't get picked there).

The longer into the 2 weeks you go, the more likely you'll be stood down rather than asked to hang around as there's less chance they can guarantee the next case will wrap up before the end of your scheduled 2 weeks.

Yep - I was 'lucky' in that I got selected on day 1 for a case that lasted 7 days, then almost immediately picked again for one they expected to last no more than 3 days so my two weeks was fully occupied. Some of the original group I was called up with only did the second case and were hanging around for a week and a half waiting (not being selected for other juries that started)

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

This.

I was even transferred from Hove to Lewes one day on my first jury service as they were slightly short of options there compared to Hove (and then didn't get picked there).

The longer into the 2 weeks you go, the more likely you'll be stood down rather than asked to hang around as there's less chance they can guarantee the next case will wrap up before the end of your scheduled 2 weeks.

They're also pretty good about keeping you informed as to whether you need to turn up or not. Unless you're actually on a case, or if they're doing legal arguments or something, you might get sent home for the afternoon, or you might get a text late afternoon telling you that you don't need to turn up the following day

 

[Easy 10]

I ended up sitting on 3 cases over about 12 days.

1 juror was let off because the case was dragging on, he was self-employed and said it was harming his business, so the Judge accepted a jury of 11 for the case (but wanted a 10-1 verdict, which we did not reach).

Another one was let off because he said he'd read previous about the defendant in the local press.

I watched an american TV series last year where one of the jurors, when asked if there was any reason he should not be on the particular case, said "I don't like blacks". So off he went.

So there are getouts.

 

[peterward]

This.

I was even transferred from Hove to Lewes one day on my first jury service as they were slightly short of options there compared to Hove (and then didn't get picked there).

The longer into the 2 weeks you go, the more likely you'll be stood down rather than asked to hang around as there's less chance they can guarantee the next case will wrap up before the end of your scheduled 2 weeks.

MJsGhost is moving from Hove to Lewes

Here we Go!

 

[dazzer6666]

I ended up sitting on 3 cases over about 12 days.

1 juror was let off because the case was dragging on, he was self-employed and said it was harming his business, so the Judge accepted a jury of 11 for the case (but wanted a 10-1 verdict, which we did not reach).

Another one was let off because he said he'd read previous about the defendant in the local press.

I watched an american TV series last year where one of the jurors, when asked if there was any reason he should not be on the particular case, said "I don't like blacks". So off he went.

So there are getouts.

One of ours put her hand up and said 'I'm friends with his (defendant's) gran'

 

[MJsGhost]

MJsGhost is moving from Hove to Lewes

Here we Go!

It was big news at the time, I can tell you... then not picked.

I sympathise with Kalvin Phillips

 

[Bozza]

Suck it up and do your bloody civic duty like the rest of us.

Oh, I absolutely will, and understand the importance of doing so.

A spring/summer call-up is just easier to work around - the boys can walk back from school as the weather will be more favourable and we can leave the doors open for the dog.

Oh, and it won’t clash with the BIGGEST AWAY GAME IN THE CLUB’S HISTORY.

 

[MJsGhost]

I've just read it again - you have to explain your reason(s) if you ask for another date.

If I recall correctly (I'm about 75% sure), they do have the right to ask to see evidence of booked flights etc. (The date of booking would need to show as before the summons arrived, rather than being able to hastily book something when a summons arrives)

I don't think they are very likely to invoke that right, but by the book, you need a stand-up reason to defer i.e. something you really have to do (work etc), or if it's something less essential, but already booked e.g. a holiday. I'd imagine a first-time deferral will be waved through, with more scrutiny if you deferred again?

The chances are, you'd be fine to just say you have travel booked.

 

[Tory Boy]

Although they put Hove down, that's more of an admin base. It could be Hove, Brighton or Lewes.

I even think they are using Chichester at the moment.

 

[dazzer6666]

If I recall correctly (I'm about 75% sure), they do have the right to ask to see evidence of booked flights etc. (The date of booking would need to show as before the summons arrived, rather than being able to hastily book something when a summons arrives)

I don't think they are very likely to invoke that right, but by the book, you need a stand-up reason to defer i.e. something you really have to do (work etc), or if it's something less essential, but already booked e.g. a holiday. I'd imagine a first-time deferral will be waved through, with more scrutiny if you deferred again?

The chances are, you'd be fine to just say you have travel booked.

Seem to recall there is no second deferral - when you get your first one you have to provide dates you are available and they'll assign one of them

 

[maffew]

I certainly wouldn't put 'Brentford away' in the space marked 'Reason for Deferral'.

"Loss of loyalty points"?