JT - Stand down or not

[Common as Mook]

Come on then, let's kick this one off.

Should JT stand down as England captain or is he right to stick by his guns if he believes he has done nothing wrong and is yet to proven guilty?

Rio isn't happy on Twitter but the process changed after his ban whereby you couldn't be banned from playing for country until proven guilty of an offence. So ultimately, his whinging is irrelevant.

 

[seagullondon]

If he believes he is innocent and knows he is innocent then of course he should not step down

 

[Simon Morgan]

Or better still he shouldn't be in the team because he isn't very good


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[Common as Mook]

Or better still he shouldn't be in the team because he isn't very good


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That's not the question and irrelevant as to whether he should stand down amid the public clamour.

 

[keaton]

What's Rio whinging about?

 

[Albumen]

The thug should be sacked.

 

[Common as Mook]

What's Rio whinging about?

I think it's because he was banned before he was proven guilty. May be wrong though

 

[shaun_rc]

Until it's proved, he can't be called guilty, but he should step down because he's slow and past it. It depresses me to think of him as England captain in the summer for both non-footballing and footballing reasons...

 

[Woodchip]

Until it's proved, he can't be called guilty, but he should step down because he's slow and past it. It depresses me to think of him as England captain in the summer for both non-footballing and footballing reasons...

This.

Oh and Terry is an unt!

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[Billy the Fish]

If John Terry stands down it would be like an admission of guilt on his part.

Rio should keep his mouth shut, he was guilty of missing a drugs test and he's never disputed that. Punishment for missing drugs test - long ban.
Nobody can prove if he missed it because he'd been taking something he shouldn't. Just like I don't think anyone will ever prove exactly what John Terry said.

 

[aolstudios]

Until it's proved, he can't be called guilty, but he should step down because he's slow and past it. It depresses me to think of him as England captain in the summer for both non-footballing and footballing reasons...

this

 

[Gritt23]

I've said it before, I'll say it again .... I don't understand why we have a nominated England captain that needs to be sacked, or resign, or appointed. It's not cricket, he's not part of teh selection panel, he is just the guy who leads the team out.

Why doesn't the squad get named, then the team, and from that team the manager decides who will be captain. That just does away with all this nonsense, as well as all teh futile debate we'll have about who should succeed him if he does stand down / get sacked.

Why? I just don't understand the need of it.

 

[Notters]

I'm still past caring about England after their performance at the world cup. Sad but true.

 

[Common as Mook]

I've said it before, I'll say it again .... I don't understand why we have a nominated England captain that needs to be sacked, or resign, or appointed. It's not cricket, he's not part of teh selection panel, he is just the guy who leads the team out.

Why doesn't the squad get named, then the team, and from that team the manager decides who will be captain. That just does away with all this nonsense, as well as all teh futile debate we'll have about who should succeed him if he does stand down / get sacked.

Why? I just don't understand the need of it.

This. As far as I'm concerned it shouldn't be an issue.

I find it worrying though when the press and public get the bit between their teeth, someone can lose their job when they haven't actually be proven to be guilty of anything whatsoever. More than anything else, the judge may see it as being prejudicial to the case.

 

[Marc1901]

He should give the armband up. Capello gave him another chance before and seems like he has ruined it again so rightly so Mr Capello should strip him of the armband if he doesn't give it up, even if he is innocent.

 

[Common as Mook]

He should give the armband up. Capello gave him another chance before and seems like he has ruined it again so rightly so Mr Capello should strip him of the armband if he doesn't give it up, even if he is innocent.

Why? If he is innocent, why should he?

 

[keaton]

He should give the armband up. Capello gave him another chance before and seems like he has ruined it again so rightly so Mr Capello should strip him of the armband if he doesn't give it up, even if he is innocent.

How "he's ruined it again" if he's innocent?

 

[Marc1901]

Why? If he is innocent, why should he?

Because he seems to be the one who has been in the media spotlight for the wrong reasons as England captain, why not give the armband to someone like Scott Parker who just gets on with the game and is one of the most honest, well behaved players in this country?

I wouldn't even take JT just for the plain and simple fact that it could ruin our chances at the Euro's and be possibly more of an embarrassment than the World Cup.

 

[DJ Leon]

I don't much care what he does really.

When the whole Bridge incident reared up I argued, somewhat against the tide, that it was very much a work problem. Terry's private life had impinged on his role as an England player and definitely as a captain. It's not rocket science to understand that this is what you get with Terry, he's a figure likely to cause divisions. Yet, Capello gave him the captaincy back. What a bonehead move, we're now in the same position again.

As I say, I don't care what Capello/Terry does here regardless of whether he's innocent of the charges, but I do care that the England Manager and the FA weren't bright enough to see another incident with Terry as just a matter of time.

 

[Mellotron]

Thing is Terry is definitely deluded enough to think that him being captain actually HELPS the team, rather (obviously) harming it.

He will never stand down. He would continue into his 50s and 60s if he could, he doesn't give a shit.