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Joe Mattock



The Grockle

Formally Croydon Seagull
Sep 26, 2008
5,765
Dorset
People go into moaning overdrive on here when we DRAW A GAME. It's f***ing unbelievable on here sometimes. Embarrassing.



It certainly is embarrassing, this is the first time we have been competitive in this division for 21 years and we have a decent chance of grabbing a playoff place for promotion to the premierleague yet people still feel the need to moan and have a pop at our players, it really is unbelievable.
 






grummitts gloves

New member
Dec 30, 2008
2,796
West Sussex, la,la,la
Not a dig a Painter, just an observation. Mattock is the better player because he can play high up the pitch as Gus requires, but can also get back quickly, whereas Painter gets caught out for pace to easily if he loses possession or has to track back when the opposition has the ball.

Taking nothing away from Painters achievements for the club, but we have moved on considerably since he last played.


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Feb 24, 2011
2,843
Upper Bevendean
Painter took some right stick on here earlier in the season. I have always rated him, albeit he is a bit slow. He is 100% committed and puts in a shift every time he pulls on the shirt. However, I do think Mattock has done a sound job, and is much more experienced in this division.
 












ees complicated no?

New member
Apr 3, 2011
4,075
Hove, United Kingdom
Not a moan at painter but at the start of the season right up to when he got injured people were moaning saying we need a new left back because this league is good for him (I was one of them) yet now hes starting to get fit people think he has a chance at starting at left back?

Sorry but I agree with the OP in a way Mattock deserves to keep his place hes a much better player and has done very well since he joined us and has proved we needed someone at leftback all along, so fingers cross hes our 1st choice left back next season.
 


Seagull over Canaryland

Well-known member
Feb 8, 2011
3,557
Norfolk
I've not been convinced by Mattock as yet, hopefully some competition with Painter will raise both players performance levels.


This. Yes, Mattock has looked ok but a fit Painter gives us competition and good depth in the squad.

I can see the point raised by the OP although could have been phrased more subtely. Painter (and Calderon for that matter) were both nailed on to start in League 1 but were getting skinned a bit too often earlier this season. Competition from the loanees is good and has helped steady the ship.
 






tubaman

Member
Nov 2, 2009
748
Not a dig a Painter, just an observation. Mattock is the better player because he can play high up the pitch as Gus requires, but can also get back quickly, whereas Painter gets caught out for pace to easily if he loses possession or has to track back when the opposition has the ball.

Taking nothing away from Painters achievements for the club, but we have moved on considerably since he last played.


I think that Gus's comments were intended to spice up the competition for places and emphasising the fact that there is room Mattock to improve his game. I do agree that painter lacks speed and Mattock looks more comfortable on the ball and going forward. I personally feel far more comfortable with Mattock playing.
 




Nov 20, 2003
809
hove
Mate at work is a big swans fan told me that MP was really good for them in Div 1 but struggled in championship lack of pace ect did really well last season but has still alot to prove at this level , as does mattock but he is still a young lad.
 




Birdie Boy

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2011
4,392
From what I've seen so far, Mattock is no better than Painter, IMO.

At the beginning of the season, even when we were winning so many games, everytime the opposition ran down the right wing, I was always nervous that Painter would be out done/run. A good player but not good enough for a top 6 Championship side.
 


SK1NT

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2003
8,762
Thames Ditton
It certainly is embarrassing, this is the first time we have been competitive in this division for 21 years and we have a decent chance of grabbing a playoff place for promotion to the premierleague yet people still feel the need to moan and have a pop at our players, it really is unbelievable.

Imagine what it will be like in the premiership when we are winning only a handful of games... Moaning over drive
 


then and now

New member
Jan 16, 2010
110
Just Read that Joe Mattock has been Warned he faces competition form Painter,
put Painter in the reservers where he belongs

2 CHINS
, you must have a great footballing brain and see something which us other fans cann't see in painter, are you saying painter is now not good enough for this division and would not be a worthy replacement if mattock got injured ? who would your replacement be and why, i await your answer.
 


BHAFANS

New member
Jul 27, 2011
77
Middleton
Put Painter in the reserves where he belongs? Sorry but f*** off, who are you to slate a player who was integral to our promotion last year.

Why people choose to slag off our players especially during our best season in a generation, I really fear when we hit a rough patch as some of the goons on here are going to go in to moaning overdrive.

People would do well to remember where we have come from.
He might have been. But he's not good enough for the championship. Fair doos to him for last year, but he's had his time
 








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