[Albion] Joao Pedro - How good is he?..

[tigertim68]

Pedro should be back Thursday morning so no reason he shouldn't play , he's not an old man

That’s what I think as well , some people on here have no idea

 

[Withdean South Stand]

That’s what I think as well , some people on here have no idea

Including you. Pure guesswork.

 

[dazzer6666]

Think people sometimes make a bit too much of the discomfort/impact of flying thing these days………a few hours in a comfy bed either sleeping or watching TV on a modern aircraft (and probably not caning as much booze as I do on a longer flight ) doesn’t need much recovery. If they are back sometime Weds they’ll be fit to be involved on Saturday, but wouldn’t be surprised to see the club being cautious and put them on the bench if other options ar available.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Think people sometimes make a bit too much of the discomfort/impact of flying thing these days………a few hours in a comfy bed either sleeping or watching TV on a modern aircraft (and probably not caning as much booze as I do on a longer flight ) doesn’t need much recovery. If they are back sometime Weds they’ll be fit to be involved on Saturday, but wouldn’t be surprised to see the club being cautious and put them on the bench if other options ar available.

I guess most of us don't have that much knowledge of first class cross continental travel and have little recollection of having 24 year old knees.

 

[Bakero]

I guess most of us don't have that much knowledge of first class cross continental travel and have little recollection of having 24 year old knees.

Is João using an older man's knees

 

[Gabbiano]

Think people sometimes make a bit too much of the discomfort/impact of flying thing these days………a few hours in a comfy bed either sleeping or watching TV on a modern aircraft (and probably not caning as much booze as I do on a longer flight ) doesn’t need much recovery. If they are back sometime Weds they’ll be fit to be involved on Saturday, but wouldn’t be surprised to see the club being cautious and put them on the bench if other options ar available.

I will say that the jetlag always affects me way more coming back from the Americas than going outbound. A five hour difference from Paraguay to the UK is enough that you feel it for several days.

Nothing new though, I suppose as elite sportsmen they must have methods to try to minimise such impacts as to not affect performance.

 

[dazzer6666]

I will say that the jetlag always affects me way more coming back from the Americas than going outbound. A five hour difference from Paraguay to the UK is enough that you feel it for several days.

Nothing new though, I suppose as elite sportsmen they must have methods to try to minimise such impacts as to not affect performance.

Actually helps (in my experience anyway) to have a longer flight (I know that sounds counterintuitive)……..the NYC return for example is often so short you don’t get the chance to sleep properly, but when it’s closer to 11 or 12 hours you can get a decent sleep and the ‘short night’ is less of an issue. I always find going to/from Asia much worse than the Americas.

 

[Gabbiano]

Actually helps (in my experience anyway) to have a longer flight (I know that sounds counterintuitive)……..the NYC return for example is often so short you don’t get the chance to sleep properly, but when it’s closer to 11 or 12 hours you can get a decent sleep and the ‘short night’ is less of an issue. I always find going to/from Asia much worse than the Americas.

São Paulo to London is about 11 hours, so he can get some decent kip theoretically. This may be the issue, I can never sleep properly on planes (but then I'm always in the back with the rest of the livestock).

Don't know if the Brazilian football federation would be paying for private flights for all the squad members, all the way from Paraguay to Europe or if he'd have a layover in SP or Rio and then come back first class. Latter seems more likely to me.

 

[dazzer6666]

São Paulo to London is about 11 hours, so he can get some decent kip theoretically. This may be the issue, I can never sleep properly on planes (but then I'm always in the back with the rest of the livestock).

Don't know if the Brazilian football federation would be paying for private flights for all the squad members, all the way from Paraguay to Europe or if he'd have a layover in SP or Rio and then come back first class. Latter seems more likely to me.

Worst bit about flying from São Paulo is getting to the airport in the first place.……the traffic is beyond bad

 

[osgood]

Has anyone got the clip at Arsenal where JP swerves his body and leaves the defender for dead?
It was around the halfway line in front of the technical area.

I hope so too !...

 

[Whoislloydy]

Pedro should be back Thursday morning so no reason he shouldn't play , he's not an old man

With the depth we have now, it’s nice to know he doesn’t need to be forced into playing, or at least starting.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Has anyone got the clip at Arsenal where JP swerves his body and leaves the defender for dead?
It was around the halfway line in front of the technical area.

It was Saka, wasn't it? Pretty sure I saw him do that as part of a little dummy in the highlights. Either that or it was another bit of skill at another time!

 

[schmunk]

I've seen an increase of people here and elsewhere calling him "Pedro" as if that's his surname. I feel like I'm going a bit mad, because I thought I understood this but now I feel like I don't at all. Does anyone here know how Brazilian Portuguese names work, because I suspect I don't?

My understanding is that our player Joao Pedro Junqueira de Jesus goes by his first name, which is Joao Pedro. While double first names are a bit unusual in English, they're not unheard of -- I went to school with two separate kids called "John Paul". And you see it in other languages too -- in our squad we also have Jan Paul van Hecke.

So I always thought that calling Joao Pedro just "Pedro" is like calling JPvH "Paul".

But now it seems everyone calls him "Pedro" so now I'm doubting my understanding of how names work in his culture. Does anyone here have any actual knowledge about this, because I don't (all the above is based on assumptions, and you know what they say about those).

Calling Joao Pedro "Pedro" is the same thing as calling Cristiano Ronaldo "Ronaldo" (his full name is Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro).

It's a bit odd, but they seem to accept it.

 

[Mancgull]

He was definitely on a very fancy private jet going out there. See his Insta page.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

I've seen an increase of people here and elsewhere calling him "Pedro" as if that's his surname. I feel like I'm going a bit mad, because I thought I understood this but now I feel like I don't at all. Does anyone here know how Brazilian Portuguese names work, because I suspect I don't?

My understanding is that our player Joao Pedro Junqueira de Jesus goes by his first name, which is Joao Pedro. While double first names are a bit unusual in English, they're not unheard of -- I went to school with two separate kids called "John Paul". And you see it in other languages too -- in our squad we also have Jan Paul van Hecke.

So I always thought that calling Joao Pedro just "Pedro" is like calling JPvH "Paul".

But now it seems everyone calls him "Pedro" so now I'm doubting my understanding of how names work in his culture. Does anyone here have any actual knowledge about this, because I don't (all the above is based on assumptions, and you know what they say about those).

Although there is no standardised method for forming surnames in Brazil they do tend to follow the Portuguese method.

Joao Pedro is his first name. Junqueira is his maternal family name, de Jesus is his paternal family name.

If they continue to follow this method any children he has would take the de Jesus name and add that after the mothers paternal name to create a new family name.

As to how the player is known I think it all comes down to personal preference Christiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro is happy to be just known as Ronaldo. Man Utd defender José Diogo Dalot Teixeira is known as Diogo Dalot which is the second of his given names and his maternal surname.

It does feel a bit odd hearing Joao Pedro referred to as Pedro. No one seems to refer to Douglas Luiz Soares de Paulo of Aston Villa as just Luiz. Which would be the same thing.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Although there is no standardised method for forming surnames in Brazil they do tend to follow the Portuguese method.

Joao Pedro is his first name. Junqueira is his maternal family name, de Jesus is his paternal family name.

If they continue to follow this method any children he has would take the de Jesus name and add that after the mothers paternal name to create a new family name.

As to how the player is known I think it all comes down to personal preference Christiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro is happy to be just known as Ronaldo. Man Utd defender José Diogo Dalot Teixeira is known as Diogo Dalot which is the second of his given names and his maternal surname.

It does feel a bit odd hearing Joao Pedro referred to as Pedro. No one seems to refer to Douglas Luiz Soares de Paulo of Aston Villa as just Luiz. Which would be the same thing.

From Wiki

João Pedro Junqueira de Jesus (born 26 September 2001), also known as João Pedro, is a Brazilian professional footballer who plays as a forward for Premier League club Brighton & Hove Albion and the Brazil national team.

 

[Han Solo]

Although there is no standardised method for forming surnames in Brazil they do tend to follow the Portuguese method.

Joao Pedro is his first name. Junqueira is his maternal family name, de Jesus is his paternal family name.

If they continue to follow this method any children he has would take the de Jesus name and add that after the mothers paternal name to create a new family name.

As to how the player is known I think it all comes down to personal preference Christiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro is happy to be just known as Ronaldo. Man Utd defender José Diogo Dalot Teixeira is known as Diogo Dalot which is the second of his given names and his maternal surname.

It does feel a bit odd hearing Joao Pedro referred to as Pedro. No one seems to refer to Douglas Luiz Soares de Paulo of Aston Villa as just Luiz. Which would be the same thing.

Think it just comes down to people being lazy. I'm sure lots of Villa fans are just writing "Luiz" on Agbonlahor Chat or whatever their forum might be called.

 

[Hiheidi]

Could be him or Enciso or both?! Not sure why they'd go to Manchester though!

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Could be him or Enciso or both?! Not sure why they'd go to Manchester though!

You'd imagine Paqueta, Bruno Guimaraes, Alisson and our 2 would all get on the same jet.

Maybe Alisson did the booking?

 

[Pliny the Gull]

Could be worse. Imagine if they had to play the Paraguay game at Newcastle. Then travel back.