[Albion] Joao Pedro - How good is he?..

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Wrong thread

 

[Flounce]

It irritates me when a striker scores goals and someone says oh, but it includes penalties. This isn’t personal DJ NOBO because many people do it.

Goals are goals regardless of how they go in, from the spot or a wicked deflection off a defender’s bum.

And most of the pens were for fouls on him!

 

[Triggaaar]

Is he off for Brazil's games?

 

[El Presidente]

Corrected for you. It's actually how I first read it.

Are we back to talking about Harder?

 

[AZ Gull]

Is he off for Brazil's games?

Pedro is in the squad!!!






(But not our Joao Pedro)

 

[zefarelly]

If he can kick on he has a slight chance of being better than Kurt Nogan.

So, As good as Garry Nelson? That's some claim. I think you could be right.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Oh I like these questions…..Very good.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

He's a fantastic player who's not hit his ceiling yet.

I'm a big fan and have been since the first time I saw him play.

 

[Super Sub]

I believe this guy will go right to the very top. He has a bit of everything and has the confidence to go again and again. 1st name on the team sheet for me

 

[JetsetJimbo]

I've seen an increase of people here and elsewhere calling him "Pedro" as if that's his surname. I feel like I'm going a bit mad, because I thought I understood this but now I feel like I don't at all. Does anyone here know how Brazilian Portuguese names work, because I suspect I don't?

My understanding is that our player Joao Pedro Junqueira de Jesus goes by his first name, which is Joao Pedro. While double first names are a bit unusual in English, they're not unheard of -- I went to school with two separate kids called "John Paul". And you see it in other languages too -- in our squad we also have Jan Paul van Hecke.

So I always thought that calling Joao Pedro just "Pedro" is like calling JPvH "Paul".

But now it seems everyone calls him "Pedro" so now I'm doubting my understanding of how names work in his culture. Does anyone here have any actual knowledge about this, because I don't (all the above is based on assumptions, and you know what they say about those).

 

[AZ Gull]

I've seen an increase of people here and elsewhere calling him "Pedro" as if that's his surname. I feel like I'm going a bit mad, because I thought I understood this but now I feel like I don't at all. Does anyone here know how Brazilian Portuguese names work, because I suspect I don't?

My understanding is that our player Joao Pedro Junqueira de Jesus goes by his first name, which is Joao Pedro. While double first names are a bit unusual in English, they're not unheard of -- I went to school with two separate kids called "John Paul". And you see it in other languages too -- in our squad we also have Jan Paul van Hecke.

So I always thought that calling Joao Pedro just "Pedro" is like calling JPvH "Paul".

But now it seems everyone calls him "Pedro" so now I'm doubting my understanding of how names work in his culture. Does anyone here have any actual knowledge about this, because I don't (all the above is based on assumptions, and you know what they say about those).

I think you're over analysing it. My guess is people refer to him as Pedro simply for brevity sake. Just as people on here (me included) will often refer to Roberto De Zerbi as RDZ, or someone might refer to Fabian Huerzeler as Fab. Ultimately (on here at least), surely it's about communicating effectively but also efficiently? If I type RDZ I'm pretty sure 99.99% of NSC users know who I am referring to (even though none of De Zerbi's names are actually RDZ).

If you wish to refer to him as Joao Pedro, that's great. But if someone else on here types "Pedro" and everyone knows who that poster is referring to....that's great too, isn't it?

 

[Lenny Rider]

Still feel myself he’s a little under the radar (which isn’t a bad thing!)
Personally wouldn’t swap him for any other PL striker (with the exception of Haaland & Salah (if you catergorise Mo as an out and out striker)
JP is box office, skilful, great finisher and a real personality. Love him.

Mark Lawrenson was always my Albion GOAT (Greatest of All Time), whilst there have been a number of challengers, he still is, but if JP develops further for how low long?

 

[Bakero]

I've seen an increase of people here and elsewhere calling him "Pedro" as if that's his surname. I feel like I'm going a bit mad, because I thought I understood this but now I feel like I don't at all. Does anyone here know how Brazilian Portuguese names work, because I suspect I don't?

My understanding is that our player Joao Pedro Junqueira de Jesus goes by his first name, which is Joao Pedro. While double first names are a bit unusual in English, they're not unheard of -- I went to school with two separate kids called "John Paul". And you see it in other languages too -- in our squad we also have Jan Paul van Hecke.

So I always thought that calling Joao Pedro just "Pedro" is like calling JPvH "Paul".

But now it seems everyone calls him "Pedro" so now I'm doubting my understanding of how names work in his culture. Does anyone here have any actual knowledge about this, because I don't (all the above is based on assumptions, and you know what they say about those).

You're 100% correct but, like @AZ Gull says, some go with Pedro for short. i tend to shorten to João.

 

[dazzer6666]

I've seen an increase of people here and elsewhere calling him "Pedro" as if that's his surname. I feel like I'm going a bit mad, because I thought I understood this but now I feel like I don't at all. Does anyone here know how Brazilian Portuguese names work, because I suspect I don't?

My understanding is that our player Joao Pedro Junqueira de Jesus goes by his first name, which is Joao Pedro. While double first names are a bit unusual in English, they're not unheard of -- I went to school with two separate kids called "John Paul". And you see it in other languages too -- in our squad we also have Jan Paul van Hecke.

So I always thought that calling Joao Pedro just "Pedro" is like calling JPvH "Paul".

But now it seems everyone calls him "Pedro" so now I'm doubting my understanding of how names work in his culture. Does anyone here have any actual knowledge about this, because I don't (all the above is based on assumptions, and you know what they say about those).

You’re technically correct (ie Pedro is his second christian name) but even the AlbionTV commentator is using ‘Pedro’ now. As others are saying it’s just a brevity/simplicity thing.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I've seen an increase of people here and elsewhere calling him "Pedro" as if that's his surname. I feel like I'm going a bit mad, because I thought I understood this but now I feel like I don't at all. Does anyone here know how Brazilian Portuguese names work, because I suspect I don't?

My understanding is that our player Joao Pedro Junqueira de Jesus goes by his first name, which is Joao Pedro. While double first names are a bit unusual in English, they're not unheard of -- I went to school with two separate kids called "John Paul". And you see it in other languages too -- in our squad we also have Jan Paul van Hecke.

So I always thought that calling Joao Pedro just "Pedro" is like calling JPvH "Paul".

But now it seems everyone calls him "Pedro" so now I'm doubting my understanding of how names work in his culture. Does anyone here have any actual knowledge about this, because I don't (all the above is based on assumptions, and you know what they say about those).

So it’s JPJDJ? It’s a Roman Catholic tradition where the first name is choice, the second name is a Saint, and then a family name.

 

[Withdean South Stand]

Algorithm was 100% right about Joao, and to get him by paying a release clause meant we probably got him under his true value. He will be our record sale next summer for sure, assuming there's nothing in his contract to preclude holding out for a massive fee.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

He's a fantastic player who's not hit his ceiling yet.

I'm a big fan and have been since the first time I saw him play.

Me too. And genuinely, that 'first time' was a televised Watford game, that he appeared in as an 18 year old. I only watched to see how Glenn Murray was getting on, and was struck by how fantastically well this kid used his body to protect the ball. I called it to my lads, right then, that he was going to be a star - (as I SMUGLY remind them, to this day).

The only other very young striker I've been so impressed with, so immediately, and been so convinced by, is Cameron Archer. Rather disappointed he's ended up at Southampton. Terrific finisher, in the mould of Defoe.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Mark Lawrenson was always my Albion GOAT (Greatest of All Time), whilst there have been a number of challengers, he still is, but if JP develops further for how low long?

Please don't confuse JP with JP

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

The fact that he hasn't been called up for Brazil is a surprise to me. Hurzeler referenced it in a most match interview that he was disappointed not to be nominated. If he keeps knocking on the door he surely can't be ignored much longer. I want Brighton players to see that they can get picked for their national team despite not playing for a traditional powerhouse

Brazil seem to be well stocked in wide attacking positions, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Savinho. But in the central positions? Do they really have 3 or 4 better than him that he can't make the squad? Endrick, obviously a massive talent at 18. Not sure there are any others playing in a decent league scoring goals and playing well against top class opponents. Neymar is presumably miles off getting fit and up to that level. Richarlison and Anthony not featuring and not contributing

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Me too. And genuinely, that 'first time' was a televised Watford game, that he appeared in as an 18 year old. I only watched to see how Glenn Murray was getting on, and was struck by how fantastically well this kid used his body to protect the ball. I called it to my lads, right then, that he was going to be a star - (as I SMUGLY remind them, to this day).

The only other very young striker I've been so impressed with, so immediately, and been so convinced by, is Cameron Archer. Rather disappointed he's ended up at Southampton. Terrific finisher, in the mould of Defoe.

That's something you can keep reminding them of forever!