Jimmy Carr - I do not pay a penny more tax than I have to.

[DJ Leon]

I'm not sure he's doing anything illegal and from what I hear this is the favoured scheme (the offshore company 'loaning' you your own money) of a lot of Premiership footballers as well as other wealthy people.

Personally what makes me sick is Cameron declaring this 'morally wrong'. You're in charge in Dave, if you don't like it do something about it. Or would that upset your mates from school and all your big business chums? Tax avoidance is an absolute central part of how business operates now, calling it 'morally wrong' when an individual is involved is weak, cowardly and a breathtaking piece of hypocrisy. Especially when your family and the families of all your friends have been doing it for generations.

I'm not saying what Carr and co do is right, but if everyone else is doing it and you're not that makes you a fool. Who wants to pay more tax than they have to?

 

[clippedgull]

I used to let this piss me off big time in the past, but on reflection I realised that everybody would do it given the chance. Doesn't make it morally right of course, but then who is rich and has morals

 

[queens park pete]

I used to like Jimmy Carr but find him a bit of a twat nowadays. He has a face that screams to be slapped and looks quite evil. He tried to be edgy with the RF but looked a fool. His comments today when people are busting their arses just to scrape by was a slap in the face.

A face that seems more likely to be slapped if he ever risks getting out of his limo to meet the taxpayers1

Unless he coughs up some massive charity correction, his career is as f***ed as Gary Glitters.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Can't help feeling there's a few high horses being ridden here.

If you could- entirely legally- pay less tax than you currently do, wouldn't you take that opportunity? Sorry, but I'm pretty sure I would. If someone said to me tomorrow that they could save me a couple of hundred quid a month simply by taking advantage of the tax laws, then of course I'm going to do it. I'm not stupid. If, further down the line, the loopholes allowing such activity were closed and I had to start paying the normal amount, I'd just have to shrug and get on with it.

Sorry, but nobody looks at their bank statement and wishes they could pay more tax for the good of the nation. That's crap. Might be morally unpalatable, but it's the truth, and the "outrage" at Jimmy Carr should really be directed at the policy-makers who allow such off-shoring to happen.

I bet plenty of the top footballers are up to exactly the same, not to mention the bankers, actors, mates-of-Cameron, and CEOs raking it in. Blame the Government (past and present) for making it possible, not those who are merely taking advantage of it.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

He's not breeaking the law, so I would blame the lawmakers for allowing for these loopholes and not closing them off. It might sound morally dodgy, but I bet most people would do it given the resources and advice he is able to buy.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Can't help feeling there's a few high horses being ridden here.
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I bet plenty of the top footballers are up to exactly the same, not to mention the bankers, actors, mates-of-Cameron, and CEOs raking it in. Blame the Government (past and present) for making it possible, not those who are merely taking advantage of it.

In Jimmy Carr's case - probably not wise to criticise others for the same thing - even if they are multinationals.

There is what is legal and there is what is morally right (although of course that is very subjective) - if you make your living pointing out the moral failings of others then you have to take what comes.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Wonder how many of Cam's mates do the same ? We're all in this together, are we f***

Aint that the case.

 

[pipkin112]

Can't help feeling there's a few high horses being ridden here.

If you could- entirely legally- pay less tax than you currently do, wouldn't you take that opportunity? Sorry, but I'm pretty sure I would. If someone said to me tomorrow that they could save me a couple of hundred quid a month simply by taking advantage of the tax laws, then of course I'm going to do it. I'm not stupid. If, further down the line, the loopholes allowing such activity were closed and I had to start paying the normal amount, I'd just have to shrug and get on with it.

Sorry, but nobody looks at their bank statement and wishes they could pay more tax for the good of the nation. That's crap. Might be morally unpalatable, but it's the truth, and the "outrage" at Jimmy Carr should really be directed at the policy-makers who allow such off-shoring to happen.

I bet plenty of the top footballers are up to exactly the same, not to mention the bankers, actors, mates-of-Cameron, and CEOs raking it in. Blame the Government (past and present) for making it possible, not those who are merely taking advantage of it.

I hate saying it, but, this is very true.

If i could save a few thousand pound year in tax, I would do it.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

He's not breeaking the law, so I would blame the lawmakers for allowing for these loopholes and not closing them off. It might sound morally dodgy, but I bet most people would do it given the resources and advice he is able to buy.

Depends what sort of human being you are I suppose. I would like to hope most decent people would not think f*** everyone else I am alright Jack.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Can't help feeling there's a few high horses being ridden here.

If you could- entirely legally- pay less tax than you currently do, wouldn't you take that opportunity? Sorry, but I'm pretty sure I would. If someone said to me tomorrow that they could save me a couple of hundred quid a month simply by taking advantage of the tax laws, then of course I'm going to do it. I'm not stupid. If, further down the line, the loopholes allowing such activity were closed and I had to start paying the normal amount, I'd just have to shrug and get on with it.

Sorry, but nobody looks at their bank statement and wishes they could pay more tax for the good of the nation. That's crap. Might be morally unpalatable, but it's the truth, and the "outrage" at Jimmy Carr should really be directed at the policy-makers who allow such off-shoring to happen.

I bet plenty of the top footballers are up to exactly the same, not to mention the bankers, actors, mates-of-Cameron, and CEOs raking it in. Blame the Government (past and present) for making it possible, not those who are merely taking advantage of it.

Would you do it or would you want to contribute to the society you live in ? So no " high horses " as far as I am concerned. Depends on what sort of human being you want to be. At the end of the day it comes down to whether you are happy with the person you see in the mirror.

 

[Norman Potting]

How many on this board have paid someone in cash to get a better price?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

How many on this board have paid someone in cash to get a better price?

Probably not made money out of pointing at other people for doing it.

 

[n1 gull]

I think there are extremes and Jimmy Carr has taken extreme action, whilst criticising others for doing what he's been caught doing.
It's like the Major government 'back to basics' agenda, whilst they were all shagging around etc..

I don't think anyone would really mind if he had set up a company or whatever an paid a reduced corporation tax or similar, but this is just
f***ing greedy rank behaviour and he's been caught. f*** him

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

It's like the Major government 'back to basics' agenda, whilst they were all shagging around etc..

Famously re-named the 'back to my place' agenda.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I think there are extremes and Jimmy Carr has taken extreme action, whilst criticising others for doing what he's been caught doing.
It's like the Major government 'back to basics' agenda, whilst they were all shagging around etc..

I don't think anyone would really mind if he had set up a company or whatever an paid a reduced corporation tax or similar, but this is just
f***ing greedy rank behaviour and he's been caught. f*** him

This. He basically contributes f*** all to the nurses, teachers and police force but chooses to live in a society that holds those treasured institutions with high regard and contribute the best part of 20% of their wages for that. Carr has said " f*** you UK " and for that he is a tosser of the highest order. Infact I am surprised at some of the people on here who have said " what's the problem ? "

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Seems a bit like all the BBC staff and Civil Servants getting paid direct in to Ltd Companies for tax avoidance.

 

[brakespear]

In Jimmy Carr's case - probably not wise to criticise others for the same thing - even if they are multinationals.

There is what is legal and there is what is morally right (although of course that is very subjective) - if you make your living pointing out the moral failings of others then you have to take what comes.

This

Would you do it or would you want to contribute to the society you live in ? So no " high horses " as far as I am concerned. Depends on what sort of human being you want to be. At the end of the day it comes down to whether you are happy with the person you see in the mirror.

And also this.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

This. He basically contributes f*** all to the nurses, teachers and police force but chooses to live in a society that holds those treasured institutions with high regard and contribute the best part of 20% of their wages for that. Carr has said " f*** you UK " and for that he is a tosser of the highest order. Infact I am surprised at some of the people on here who have said " what's the problem ? "

My point is not whether that is a decent view to take, more that you're aiming your anger at the wrong people. It is a poor state of affairs that they can get away with it, but that's down to the Government who, probably because a lot of their mates benefit, permit it to happen and refuse to legislate against it.

Are you seriously telling me that if you were advised tomorrow that you could pay £200 a month less tax, entirely within the bounds of the law, you'd refuse?

 

[crasher]

Can't help feeling there's a few high horses being ridden here.

If you could- entirely legally- pay less tax than you currently do, wouldn't you take that opportunity? Sorry, but I'm pretty sure I would. If someone said to me tomorrow that they could save me a couple of hundred quid a month simply by taking advantage of the tax laws, then of course I'm going to do it. I'm not stupid. If, further down the line, the loopholes allowing such activity were closed and I had to start paying the normal amount, I'd just have to shrug and get on with it.

Sorry, but nobody looks at their bank statement and wishes they could pay more tax for the good of the nation. That's crap. Might be morally unpalatable, but it's the truth, and the "outrage" at Jimmy Carr should really be directed at the policy-makers who allow such off-shoring to happen.

I bet plenty of the top footballers are up to exactly the same, not to mention the bankers, actors, mates-of-Cameron, and CEOs raking it in. Blame the Government (past and present) for making it possible, not those who are merely taking advantage of it.

You're right of course that we all opt to pay out less money in any given situtation if we can. But if you add the knowledge that other people who earn a tiny fraction of what you do are paying a much bigger slice in tax - I'd hope that suddenly makes you ask yourself a different moral question. I'd like to think that if I was ever wealthy I'd want to at least pay as much as those less fortunate.

 

[Lush]

But if you earned millions and could save hundreds of thousands in tax, would you do it?