[Football] Jayson Molumby

[GT49er]

The reported fee was £900 000, and I assume there was a loan fee as well, so somewhere around £1million for an academy player. Given that Veltman cost £900k and iirc Lamptey was a similar amount ( the reported £3million was wrong apparently) then I think its a good deal for a player who has seemingly found his level.

A full international, with two seasons of Championship experience, for a fraction of the price we paid for Michal Karbownik or Taylor Richards. Even smaller fraction of what we paid for Kacper Kozlowski and Abdallah Sima ............... £900K? It's a steal! Even the WBA fans, who are far from over the moon about signing him, reckon they've got him cheap!

Hope there's a decent sell-on clause.

 

[Springal]

Probably about right for him , but not convinced even the championship is his level and West Brom fans don’t seem overly enthralled. Shrewd business to have the buy clause in there based on loan appearances.

Championship clubs are skint, doubt we will see many spend that big this summer

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Good luck Jay.

Hope we have a sell on.

 

[Swansman]

A full international, with two seasons of Championship experience, for a fraction of the price we paid for Michal Karbownik or Taylor Richards. Even smaller fraction of what we paid for Kacper Kozlowski and Abdallah Sima ............... £900K? It's a steal! Even the WBA fans, who are far from over the moon about signing him, reckon they've got him cheap!

Hope there's a decent sell-on clause.

Steal?

Full international... well, this is commonly referred to as having some kind of impact but over a year more than 7000 players play international caps and most of them are not good enough for Brighton or WBA or even League One. Two seasons of not playing particularly well (bad in Preston, meh in WBA) in the Championship is not really going to add to his value either.

£900k is not a lot but also not a steal. Its a normal price.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

I think what we're seeing is the result of some risked based decision making.
A number of younger prospects at the Championship/possibly Premiership level would have been good bets for future squads should we have not sustained premier league status. Gyokeres, Molumby, perhaps also Clarke, Ostigard, Khadra.
There are still a fair few in the balance: Connolly, Alzate, Ferguson, Tolaj who may also follow that path of not being able to hold down a position

We're now operating at a level where our young prospects being targeted have a higher ceiling and are costing more, Sarmiento, Caicedo as two recent examples but you could add McAllister, Moder.
It'll be interesting to see the U23 recruitment this summer, as it feels we're pushing towards a higher ceiling of o potential now with the Kowolski, Mwepu and Mitoma moves. Exciting times.

I'd think Mario Stroeykens of Anderlecht could potentially be the next one. Contract expires in 2023 I believe.

 

[GT49er]

Good luck Jay.

Hope we have a sell on.

Me too! Leeds Unted now interested in a move for Molumby.

Leeds United set sights on swoop for West Brom midfielder

Leeds United are interested in a summer move for West Brom and Republic of Ireland midfielder Jayson Molomby, reports Alan Nixon.

the72.co.uk

 

[albionalex]

Me too! Leeds Unted now interested in a move for Molumby.

Leeds United set sights on swoop for West Brom midfielder

Leeds United are interested in a summer move for West Brom and Republic of Ireland midfielder Jayson Molomby, reports Alan Nixon.

the72.co.uk

Doesn't make much sense considering Leeds don't currently have a Manager or Director of Football.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Doesn't make much sense considering Leeds don't currently have a Manager or Director of Football.

Just what l was about to post!

 

[GT49er]

Doesn't make much sense considering Leeds don't currently have a Manager or Director of Football.

Perhaps the've just got an owner who fancies he can do all that recruiting stuff himself......... ? No, surely nothing like that could ever happen - no owner would be so stupid .........................




.....oh ..........

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Jake Forster Caskey as a youngster flirted with a Championship career but then became an excellent L1 pro. Molumby always felt similar but as the player who hinted at the potential of a PL career but should become an excellent mid table Championship pro.

 

[Icy Gull]

I think what we're seeing is the result of some risked based decision making.
A number of younger prospects at the Championship/possibly Premiership level would have been good bets for future squads should we have not sustained premier league status. Gyokeres, Molumby, perhaps also Clarke, Ostigard, Khadra.
There are still a fair few in the balance: Connolly, Alzate, Ferguson, Tolaj who may also follow that path of not being able to hold down a position

We're now operating at a level where our young prospects being targeted have a higher ceiling and are costing more, Sarmiento, Caicedo as two recent examples but you could add McAllister, Moder.
It'll be interesting to see the U23 recruitment this summer, as it feels we're pushing towards a higher ceiling of o potential now with the Kowolski, Mwepu and Mitoma moves. Exciting times.

I'd think Mario Stroeykens of Anderlecht could potentially be the next one. Contract expires in 2023 I believe.

One in your list has since burst onto the scene from nowhere, who’d have thunk that when you posted?

 

[Super Steve Earle]

One in your list has since burst onto the scene from nowhere, who’d have thunk that when you posted?

I presume you are referring to Ferguson, but Ostigard at Serie A winning Napoli, and Championship goal scoring machine Gyokeres on the cusp of a big money move to the Premier League, both seem to be doing alright from that list too.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

One in your list has since burst onto the scene from nowhere, who’d have thunk that when you posted?

I guess, you can add Enciso and Buonanotte as examples of the desire to raise the bar in potential. On the Ferguson point though, he's probably too good for the championship

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

I think what we're seeing is the result of some risked based decision making.
A number of younger prospects at the Championship/possibly Premiership level would have been good bets for future squads should we have not sustained premier league status. Gyokeres, Molumby, perhaps also Clarke, Ostigard, Khadra.
There are still a fair few in the balance: Connolly, Alzate, Ferguson, Tolaj who may also follow that path of not being able to hold down a position

No way Evan Ferguson should be in that list

 

[GrossTurn]

No way Evan Ferguson should be in that list

The post you’re quoting is over a year old, in fairness.

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

Molumby always felt similar but as the player who hinted at the potential of a PL career but should become an excellent mid table Championship pro.

Personally I don't think the club handled Molumby's development properly. A number of years ago I saw him play for the Irish U19s and U21s and I hadn't seen a better passer of the ball in an Irish shirt for years. Yet when he went to Millwall he was used more as a box-to-box hustler and that was ramped up at Preston. I think the loans hindered his development, stunted his potential as a midfielder and caused him a crisis of confidence. It has resulted in him developing into a run-of-the-mill Championship player - nothing wrong with that - but he had more potential.

 

[Jolly Red Giant]

The post you’re quoting is over a year old, in fairness.

Jaysus - that's what I get for jumping in with both feet - But I would (and on some thread probably did) have said the same thing a year ago.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Personally I don't think the club handled Molumby's development properly. A number of years ago I saw him play for the Irish U19s and U21s and I hadn't seen a better passer of the ball in an Irish shirt for years. Yet when he went to Millwall he was used more as a box-to-box hustler and that was ramped up at Preston. I think the loans hindered his development, stunted his potential as a midfielder and caused him a crisis of confidence. It has resulted in him developing into a run-of-the-mill Championship player - nothing wrong with that - but he had more potential.

I think his horrific injury was chiefly responsible for this. However, the loans obviously didn’t help. We didn’t give him the attention his talent deserved but then, we had other ‘fit’ prospects to worry about.

 

[GT49er]

I think his horrific injury was chiefly responsible for this. However, the loans obviously didn’t help. We didn’t give him the attention his talent deserved but then, we had other ‘fit’ prospects to worry about.

A more realistic analysis - in hindsight of course - is that we should have taken Millwall's £2M offer at the time - may well have been a win-win-win all round.
Still, even the best organised and managed club in the world can't get everything right all the time, can they? C'est la vie.

 

[chaileyjem]

There's a lot of that quite useful thing - a lot of hindsight in play - on this thread and typical for other threads too - for the players that don't quite develop how we'd hoped.
- Should have sold him then, shouldn't have loaned him to them, should have kept him in the squad, should have given him more time - being the usual calls about players that we don't see on a day to day basis, whose development isn't in a straight line, and unsurprisingly doesn't always result in Premier League stardom. But good to know that it would have been fixed if only the club had done this or that or this.