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Jake Robinson....



Clothes Peg

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Mar 3, 2007
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Bluejuice said:
So I haven't frightened you off then?

Good to hear.

Nah mate, you've just stopped me from becoming too much of an attention seeking cocky bitch. If anything, you've done me a favour. Thanks.
 




Mendoza

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ginadim said:
I can't believe I'm actually posting about football, but people do change...

Further on the topic of JR:

At the beginning of the season, I thought Jake to be a pretty decent player, especially after the Northwich Victoria show. As his performance got worse, I then stupidly assumed that it was a case of 'too much too young' and he was getting way too cocky and not able to perform consistently. It would now appear he is quite the opposite and has actually got confidence issues.
I just don't know what to think any more.

hes only scored in 4 league games this season, and only scored 2 league goals in his career before this season, thats where the problem lies

good player, but been over hyped and too much pressure put on him by the fans to be a boy wonder, when maybe he isnt as good as everyones high expectations
 




Nemesis said:
You are, of course, correct...

However, according to the Club's site he has 10-excluding 3 JPT goals which even the club don't list for JR.

Copied from the Club Site:

Season 2006 - 07

Competition Apps
(as sub) Goals Yellow
Cards Red
Cards
League 25 (9) 6 2 0
FA Cup 3 (0) 4 0 0
League Cup 1 (1) 0 0 0

It should read 2 JPT goals-bloody edit restrictions.
 


Hadlee

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Oct 27, 2003
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His goal scoring has dried up this year but his best attribute is running at defenders ! he's also set up quite a few goals for others.

He reminds me a bit of Paul Brooker, can drift out of games but on his day looks brilliant.
 






Mendoza

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He has appeared in 34 league games and only scored in 6 of them.

He is a good player, but not our answer, people rate him so highly, but think nothing of people like Leon Knight that scored 27 goals in this league

For instance if knight scored 27 goals on top of what we have already, we would be play off positions or better.

we cant win if we cant score, and the last 2 games proved that
 


Barnham Seagull

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Dec 28, 2005
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Nemesis said:
He has 10 goals of which 6 came from 2 hat tricks (one against a non league side, the other against an abysmal Huddersfield). In the remaining 27 games he has managed 4 goals.

That is not showing he can score goals and certainly not on a regular enough basis to justify being called a goal scorer. If we weren't struggling to get bodies in he wouldn't be a sub, let alone in the starting 11. He isn't good enough based on this season's performance and some of his recent misses have been spectacular. Sorry but that's how I see it.


Cant argue with that!

He is not a striker/centre forward possibly a winger, but good enougth for this level?
 




The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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It does amuse me how people can load the English language to suit their argument. Huddersfield were abysmal, one because they possibly were but, two because we also made them look abysmal.

Jake Robinson (or any striker for that matter) scoring a hat-trick, away from home, is an excellent achievement. To lessen that achievement in order to prove an argument is a bit out of order. Point is, we have seen what he is capable of. The main problem is not necessarily his talent - he has that in spades - it's the consistency with which he uses it, which at present is not often enough.

But, hey, writing him off at 20 is about right.
 


Les Biehn

GAME OVER
Aug 14, 2005
20,610
The Large One said:
It does amuse me how people can load the English language to suit their argument. Huddersfield were abysmal, one because they possibly were but, two because we also made them look abysmal.

Jake Robinson (or any striker for that matter) scoring a hat-trick, away from home, is an excellent achievement. To lessen that achievement in order to prove an argument is a bit out of order. Point is, we have seen what he is capable of. The main problem is not necessarily his talent - he has that in spades - it's the consistency with which he uses it, which at present is not often enough.

But, hey, writing him off at 20 is about right.

I agree. The boy is a victim of his own success, if this was his debut season which realisticly it should have been we would all be saying what a prospect he is.
 


goldstone

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Jul 5, 2003
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mendoza10 said:

we cant win if we cant score, and the last 2 games proved that

I'm not at all certain that it took the last two games to prove that you can't win if you don't score!!
 




Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
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Les Biehn said:
I agree. The boy is a victim of his own success, if this was his debut season which realisticly it should have been we would all be saying what a prospect he is.
The thing is though he hasn't really progressed since being in the team - he's had some great performances, Burnley away, Palace away, Huddersfield and a few others early in the season, if he could produce anywhere near that level consistently he could be one of the most dangerous players in this division, but he doesn't look any closer to that than when he broke into the team at 16. I hope he can do it, but next season is surely make or break for him...
 


Napper

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Jul 9, 2003
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Les Biehn said:
I agree. The boy is a victim of his own success, if this was his debut season which realisticly it should have been we would all be saying what a prospect he is.


if my auntie had balls she's be my uncle.

Facts are , this isnt his debut season and he should be showing more if he wants to make it at this level
 








Les Biehn

GAME OVER
Aug 14, 2005
20,610
Silent Bob said:
That's no fun.

I'm sorry.

To Bob,

I actually agree with some of what you say however the first half of the season I felt Jake did look like he had come on. His runs were better and he was finishing well. However he has regressed and absolutely does need to find some consistency if he wants to make it. I think alot of it has to do with him being muscled out of games. Cox is smaller than him but gives it his all while Jake just seems to run away and wet himself.

Yours faithfully
Les

To Dougal,

If we are gonna follow that vein of argument I would say to you that plenty of players need time to develop, some not hitting their stride until their early 20's. It may not be his debut season, but did it ever cross your mind that having his debut so young might have actually hindered his progress?

yours faithfully
Les
 


RonnieO'Sullivan

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Feb 21, 2005
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dwayne said:
how many sitters did the arrogant twat miss today.

USELESS

shut up u idiot
 


The Large One said:
It does amuse me how people can load the English language to suit their argument. Huddersfield were abysmal, one because they possibly were but, two because we also made them look abysmal.

Jake Robinson (or any striker for that matter) scoring a hat-trick, away from home, is an excellent achievement. To lessen that achievement in order to prove an argument is a bit out of order. Point is, we have seen what he is capable of. The main problem is not necessarily his talent - he has that in spades - it's the consistency with which he uses it, which at present is not often enough.

But, hey, writing him off at 20 is about right.

I'm not writing him off but I'm also not convinced he will make it at this level and beyond. You have your opinion on Robinson, I have mine, They differ. As for loading the English language in support of an argument-what was I supposed to say? JR scored an astonishing hat-trick against a superb Huddersfield who were having their 5th consecutive collective off day when the Albion played them?

Lots of players have talent-the ones who make it harness that talent. Jake doesn't seem to be harnessing his talent to take his career forward to the next level. Are we/am I not allowed to say that? I hope he makes it because it will be great for the club-I'm not holding my breath though.
 




Buzzer

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Oct 1, 2006
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His second(?) goal against Northwich Victoria proves the lad has ability. I don't know if it's confidence or something else but he's a terrific talent. Give the lad a chance, eh?
 


The Large One

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Nemesis said:
I'm not writing him off but I'm also not convinced he will make it at this level and beyond. You have your opinion on Robinson, I have mine, They differ. As for loading the English language in support of an argument-what was I supposed to say? JR scored an astonishing hat-trick against a superb Huddersfield who were having their 5th consecutive collective off day when the Albion played them?
You're doing it again. The fact that Huddersfield were in poo form at the time to you diminishes the quality of Jake's achievement. It's as if you don't want to credit him for scoring a hat-trick; it's as though any mug could score them - almost as if they were irrelevancies.

I can't comment on that Huddersfield game - I wasn't there. But do you think Huddersfield let him score three? Was it their obligation to allow it to happen? Or could you possibly accept that Jake worked bloody hard for those goals?

Brighton were NOT 8-0 better than Northwich. For much of the second half, Northwich were the better side. But it was down to Jake's (and others) finishing that we ended up with eight. A flattering scoreline for us, but one which is about right when you have a striker bang in form.


Nemesis said:
Lots of players have talent-the ones who make it harness that talent. Jake doesn't seem to be harnessing his talent to take his career forward to the next level. Are we/am I not allowed to say that? I hope he makes it because it will be great for the club-I'm not holding my breath though.
Of course you can say that. I never said you couldn't.

The talent is there, and we have seen flashes in him which say he can comfortably cut it at this level. However, I also believe he is not fulfilling his potential yet. I want him to play far better than he has been. But, by the same token, just because he hasn't been consistent does not mean that the knives should be out for him yet.

He is 20 for crying out loud. Did you know all you needed to know about your job at 20?
 


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