[Football] Jacob Rees-Mogg.

[stewart12]

He's what a stupid person thinks a clever person sounds like

 

[WATFORD zero]

Do people really take this drip seriously.

There are none so blind as those who will not see

 

[beorhthelm]

Talking about Churchill's legacy no doubt.

that would make some sense. shame the lady made a challenge on emotional/uninformed grounds, easily batted away. had she raise the question why the Boers needed protecting and from whom (British destroying their farms i believe), dont think Rees-Moog would have been so comfortable.

 

[The Clamp]

Darth Mogg is who the Tory’s use to test the public’s susceptibility to more and more extreme policies. I’m not joking.

 

[Dr Bandler]

that would make some sense. shame the lady made a challenge on emotional/uninformed grounds, easily batted away. had she raise the question why the Boers needed protecting and from whom (British destroying their farms i believe), dont think Rees-Moog would have been so comfortable.

Do you also feel so strongly about what is happening to Boer farmers now in South Africa, or only when the British did it? I really think a principle has to be applied fairly and without prejudice. The notion that any injustice caused by the British Empire was wrong and ghastly, but that we will turn a blind eye to what is going on now perpetrated by Africans is a double standard. Wrong is wrong is wrong. When you apply double standards people start to disagree with each other and we end up down a rabbit hole of discussion, and all of the injustices continue to happen anyway.

 

[Seasidesage]

that would make some sense. shame the lady made a challenge on emotional/uninformed grounds, easily batted away. had she raise the question why the Boers needed protecting and from whom (British destroying their farms i believe), dont think Rees-Moog would have been so comfortable.

This.

 

[Meade's Ball]

He's the Bizarro Postman Pat to me, or just Postman Pat of the 80s with everyone around him wonderfully white and archaic.

 

[beorhthelm]

Do you also feel so strongly about what is happening to Boer farmers now in South Africa, or only when the British did it? I really think a principle has to be applied fairly and without prejudice. The notion that any injustice caused by the British Empire was wrong and ghastly, but that we will turn a blind eye to what is going on now perpetrated by Africans is a double standard. Wrong is wrong is wrong. When you apply double standards people start to disagree with each other and we end up down a rabbit hole of discussion, and all of the injustices continue to happen anyway.

i feel that the South Africans are pissing on their own chips and it wont end well for them.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Do you also feel so strongly about what is happening to Boer farmers now in South Africa, or only when the British did it? I really think a principle has to be applied fairly and without prejudice. The notion that any injustice caused by the British Empire was wrong and ghastly, but that we will turn a blind eye to what is going on now perpetrated by Africans is a double standard. Wrong is wrong is wrong. When you apply double standards people start to disagree with each other and we end up down a rabbit hole of discussion, and all of the injustices continue to happen anyway.

I refer my right honourable colleague to the brexit thread. There you will witness people who have an opinion which is fact seemly and everyone else is traitor of can **** off and die!

 

[portlock seagull]

The young woman on the panel demonising Churchill didn’t have a clue what she was talking about and it showed when JRM calmly put her in her place and she went all face pulling and huffy like Kevin the teenager. It was a delight to watch actually.

 

[Bakero]

The young woman on the panel demonising Churchill didn’t have a clue what she was talking about and it showed when JRM calmly put her in her place and she went all face pulling and huffy like Kevin the teenager. It was a delight to watch actually.

Are you referring to the clip in shown in the BBC link posted above? The 'young woman' seems to be understandably taken aback by JRM comparing Boer war concentration camps to Glasgow.

 

[Klaas]

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[portlock seagull]

Are you referring to the clip in shown in the BBC link posted above? The 'young woman' seems to be understandably taken aback by JRM comparing Boer war concentration camps to Glasgow.

It was an idiotic question and debate as so many commented, no point replicating on here. People be far wiser reading Lukas, Jenkins, Roberts and others before casting judgement.

 

[ManOfSussex]

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[drew]

Barkley's problem is that by continually referring to concentration camps she is creating a comparison to what the Nazis did. She also referred to the thousands that died and stated it was systematic murder, which it clearly wasn't.

By all means criticize things that happened in the past but when you do so, do so from the point of view of the time in which decisions were made, not from the benefit of our cosy, educated world of the 21st century.

For what it's worth, I can't stand JRM.

 

[Klaas]

Barkley's problem is that by continually referring to concentration camps she is creating a comparison to what the Nazis did. She also referred to the thousands that died and stated it was systematic murder, which it clearly wasn't.

By all means criticize things that happened in the past but when you do so, do so from the point of view of the time in which decisions were made, not from the benefit of our cosy, educated world of the 21st century.

For what it's worth, I can't stand JRM.

As the historian whose tweet I posted earlier said, we don't have to judge it from the standards of our time, we can listen to people who were there.

"Rees-Mogg says we mustn't make judgments "from the comfort of 2019". We don't have to. Emily Hobhouse, who exposed the camps at the time, accused Kitchener of "a degradation both to the office & the manhood of your soldiers. I feel ashamed to own you as a fellow-countryman." "

 

[Rodney Thomas]

Barkley's problem is that by continually referring to concentration camps she is creating a comparison to what the Nazis did. She also referred to the thousands that died and stated it was systematic murder, which it clearly wasn't.

By all means criticize things that happened in the past but when you do so, do so from the point of view of the time in which decisions were made, not from the benefit of our cosy, educated world of the 21st century.

For what it's worth, I can't stand JRM.

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[Rodney Thomas]

that would make some sense. shame the lady made a challenge on emotional/uninformed grounds, easily batted away. had she raise the question why the Boers needed protecting and from whom (British destroying their farms i believe), dont think Rees-Moog would have been so comfortable.

"The lady" got a first class degree in PPE from Oxford and then read African Studies at St Antony's college. But I'm sure you know better

 

[Easy 10]

"The lady" got a first class degree in PPE from Oxford and then read African Studies at St Antony's college

Thats where I

Caught her eye...

 

[Rodney Thomas]

Thats where I

Caught her eye...

Unfortunately she didn’t come from Greece...