[Politics] Jacinda Arden

[lawros left foot]

She really is the complete antithesis of Trump and Johnson,isn't she?

 

[Pinkie Brown]

Nice serving of bitter sour grapes from Tory sycophant and Telegraph hack Ross Clark re Adern's win. Apparently Adern's handling on the Covid crisis has been 'a disaster' and no better than the UK. Who knew eh.

In a classic piece of self owning, Clark needs to brush up on his geography. Auckland the capital of New Zealand?

 

[dannyboy]

Great for New Zealand, just not so great for me, as l want to visit there in March!

Give me a shout if you need any info . lived here the last 4 years

 

[sydney]

Give me a shout if you need any info . lived here the last 4 years

best thing you ever did ...??

 

[Hampster Gull]

As a collective, you get the leaders you deserve

 

[southstandandy]

Love the bit on Spitting Image last week

 

[dannyboy]

best thing you ever did ...??

So hard to say really. First couple years definitely yes then i suppose when you get used to the new environment and start taking things for granted you get on a bit of a downer. Start missing mates, family and football of course. You still dont want to come back but miss those things a lot and realise youre a long way from home. Friends youve had over here for 2 years just arent the same as friends youve had at home for 30. Its a thing apparently and they call it the expat blues !! Stupidly i was worrying a lot about that and thought i had better see someone about it and then in December just gone my wife died. She was only 52, was so sudden we never got a chance to say goodbye so that puts everything else in to perspective then. So now its me and my 13 year old girl just trying to get through it . Initial reaction was to come straight back home but we came here for a reason so lets see what happens. Its a long old tunnel but i can see a bit of light at the end of it now. Long response .... sorry

 

[blue-shifted]

As a collective, you get the leaders you deserve

Absolutely true that.

The UK fully deserves its current agony

 

[seagullwedgee]

DB I am very very sorry to read your story. The brotherhood of Albion is with you, keep going.

 

[GT49er]

So hard to say really. First couple years definitely yes then i suppose when you get used to the new environment and start taking things for granted you get on a bit of a downer. Start missing mates, family and football of course. You still dont want to come back but miss those things a lot and realise youre a long way from home. Friends youve had over here for 2 years just arent the same as friends youve had at home for 30. Its a thing apparently and they call it the expat blues !! Stupidly i was worrying a lot about that and thought i had better see someone about it and then in December just gone my wife died. She was only 52, was so sudden we never got a chance to say goodbye so that puts everything else in to perspective then. So now its me and my 13 year old girl just trying to get through it . Initial reaction was to come straight back home but we came here for a reason so lets see what happens. Its a long old tunnel but i can see a bit of light at the end of it now. Long response .... sorry

All the best for you and your daughter.

 

[Poojah]

Absolutely true that.

The UK fully deserves its current agony

As someone who didn't want Brexit and therefore a majority Johnson leadership I should be inclined to agree with you, but I find that a touch harsh. Democracy has never really been much of a meritocracy but rather a matter of what political parties / leaders stand for and how that aligns with the prevailing sentiment of the nation at the time.

Rightly or wrongly, a majority of people wanted Brexit doing and Johnson and the Tories (which happens to sound like a really shít band) represented the most likely way for that to come to fruition. Even if political competency had been a factor, the Labour party had served up possibly the least electable opposition leader in modern history in Jeremy Corbyn.

I'm less than happy with the current cabinet we have representing this country, but to lay the blame for all of that at the door of the UK electorate seems a little harsh. I personally didn't want Brexit, I didn't want Johnson and on this occasion at least I didn't want the Tories. Least of all I wanted Covid-19, but evidently it seems 2020 ain't the year for getting what you want.

 

[blue-shifted]

As someone who didn't want Brexit and therefore a majority Johnson leadership I should be inclined to agree with you, but I find that a touch harsh. Democracy has never really been much of a meritocracy but rather a matter of what political parties / leaders stand for and how that aligns with the prevailing sentiment of the nation at the time.

Rightly or wrongly, a majority of people wanted Brexit doing and Johnson and the Tories (which happens to sound like a really shít band) represented the most likely way for that to come to fruition. Even if political competency had been a factor, the Labour party had served up possibly the least electable opposition leader in modern history in Jeremy Corbyn.

I'm less than happy with the current cabinet we have representing this country, but to lay the blame for all of that at the door of the UK electorate seems a little harsh. I personally didn't want Brexit, I didn't want Johnson and on this occasion at least I didn't want the Tories. Least of all I wanted Covid-19, but evidently it seems 2020 ain't the year for getting what you want.

Not harsh. Boris got through the tory leadership process in full knowledge of what sort of person he was on the basis that the British were shallow enough to hold their nose and vote tory anyway. They were right. In a sensible country, with sensible people, like the one mentioned in this thread, someone like Boris would never have got near the position to be voted in.

Now we're reaping what we sowed

 

[Sheebo]

So hard to say really. First couple years definitely yes then i suppose when you get used to the new environment and start taking things for granted you get on a bit of a downer. Start missing mates, family and football of course. You still dont want to come back but miss those things a lot and realise youre a long way from home. Friends youve had over here for 2 years just arent the same as friends youve had at home for 30. Its a thing apparently and they call it the expat blues !! Stupidly i was worrying a lot about that and thought i had better see someone about it and then in December just gone my wife died. She was only 52, was so sudden we never got a chance to say goodbye so that puts everything else in to perspective then. So now its me and my 13 year old girl just trying to get through it . Initial reaction was to come straight back home but we came here for a reason so lets see what happens. Its a long old tunnel but i can see a bit of light at the end of it now. Long response .... sorry

Thoughts with you and your daughter. I’m sure your wife would have wanted you both to be there for eachother all the way, regardless of where you are in the world. Heart goes out to you mate x

Ps - always talk. Always talk. Always talk. X

 

[This is me]

Not harsh. Boris got through the tory leadership process in full knowledge of what sort of person he was on the basis that the British were shallow enough to hold their nose and vote tory anyway. They were right. In a sensible country, with sensible people, like the one mentioned in this thread, someone like Boris would never have got near the position to be voted in.

Now we're reaping what we sowed

.. that is very condescending. Millions of people knew what they were voting for. Outside the Islington Labour Borough of Brighton & Hove - the left are totally irrelevant in the rest of Sussex (thank goodness).

 

[sydney]

So hard to say really. First couple years definitely yes then i suppose when you get used to the new environment and start taking things for granted you get on a bit of a downer. Start missing mates, family and football of course. You still dont want to come back but miss those things a lot and realise youre a long way from home. Friends youve had over here for 2 years just arent the same as friends youve had at home for 30. Its a thing apparently and they call it the expat blues !! Stupidly i was worrying a lot about that and thought i had better see someone about it and then in December just gone my wife died. She was only 52, was so sudden we never got a chance to say goodbye so that puts everything else in to perspective then. So now its me and my 13 year old girl just trying to get through it . Initial reaction was to come straight back home but we came here for a reason so lets see what happens. Its a long old tunnel but i can see a bit of light at the end of it now. Long response .... sorry

wow....don't be sorry mate , sorry about your wife , that's terrible and i'm sure most people would have headed home for support of family and friends , i always missed my family and friends too but i didn't go home for 7 yrs or so and the place had changed so much i didn't think i could live there again. Sorry for your loss mate , all the best , syd x

 

[e77]

.. that is very condescending. Millions of people knew what they were voting for. Outside the Islington Labour Borough of Brighton & Hove - the left are totally irrelevant in the rest of Sussex (thank goodness).

Labour run Crawley and Hastings Councils and have gone from 0 to 10 Councillors in Worthing in 3 years.

 

[Medwayseagull]

.. that is very condescending. Millions of people knew what they were voting for. Outside the Islington Labour Borough of Brighton & Hove - the left are totally irrelevant in the rest of Sussex (thank goodness).

You are just ignorant.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

As a collective, you get the leaders you deserve

Jacinda’s opinion of Boris Johnson from 2012 when he was mayor. She is an astute woman.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...prime-minister-election-twitter-b1101373.html

 

[shingle]

You are just ignorant.

Think you might need to look a bit closer to home.

 

[zefarelly]

Not harsh. Boris got through the tory leadership process in full knowledge of what sort of person he was on the basis that the British were shallow enough to hold their nose and vote tory anyway. They were right. In a sensible country, with sensible people, like the one mentioned in this thread, someone like Boris would never have got near the position to be voted in.

Now we're reaping what we sowed

Quite, Whats more concerning ( asides peoples selfish idiocy/I'm alright Jack insular attitude) is the total lack of quality and integrity in opposition.

The big question for me is, If someone like JA appeared on the political stage here, would she get shot down in flames by the establishment before getting anywhere near the top ? or are enough people that stupid they wouldn't entertain the idea ?

[MENTION=1314]dannyboy[/MENTION], All the best, the light will get brighter.