'Its not easy with the budget to do this job'

[Giraffe]

If Gus had said this, NSC meltdown.........

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Ha ha - now let's see if those Gus haters that have said he shouldn't have moaned about the budget give the same treatment to Oscar - I lay a hefty sum they don't !!!

 

[Giraffe]

Ha ha - now let's see if those Gus haters that have said he shouldn't have moaned about the budget give the same treatment to Oscar - I lay a hefty sum they don't !!!

Indeed NSC hypocrisy at its best.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

As has been pointed out of the original thread, in context of the article this is taken from, Oscar is saying that it's not been easy to adjust to being actively involved in the recruitment / budget juggling. He's not seemingly complaining about the size of the budget.

 

[Bwian]

Poyet used to whine about the budget at every opportunity.

 

[Diego Napier]

As has been pointed out of the original thread, in context of the article this is taken from, Oscar is saying that it's not been easy to adjust to being actively involved in the recruitment / budget juggling. He's not seemingly complaining about the size of the budget.

He isn't but you know how tabloid style journalism and the craving for soundbites can misrepresent what people really mean to those with limited intellect.

 

[willyfantastic]

its very early days - im pretty sure Gus wasn't moaning about the budget at the same stage of his managerial role either - we will have to wait and see

however my current view of oscar is that he has a lot of class about him

 

[saafend_seagull]

Where is this quote from?

 

[pork pie]

Ha ha - now let's see if those Gus haters that have said he shouldn't have moaned about the budget give the same treatment to Oscar - I lay a hefty sum they don't !!!

I suggest that you read the comment in context. He is discussing the fact he is normally just a coach and others deal with finance and transfers. It is nothing like Poyet's constant moans about the lack of a massive budget for him to spunk.

I can see no indication of Oscar being unhappy at the size of his budget.

 

[KZNSeagull]

No-one said it was easy did they? It's a challenge which I hope Oscar is going to meet head on.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Poyet used to whine about the budget at every opportunity.

So? it was clearly a ploy to downplay expectations.

You don't go into a transfer window declaring "We are so RICH". Teams will automatically double the price of their players once approached and fans expectations would go through the roof.

I still can't understand how some people don't get this.

You want to sell a player and you value him at £1m. West Brom come in. You will accept £1m. Man Utd come in? You ask for £2m based on their financial ability.

It's just common sense. I don't CARE that fans got annoyed by it. I don't care what his interviews said. I only cared about the team on the pitch before my eyes and, on the whole, Gus got a VERY good team together for a reasonable price. All fine by me.

 

[pork pie]

Where is this quote from?

The miss-quote is from the Argus. Read it, this thread is bollox!

 

[Return of the Rev]

Ha ha - now let's see if those Gus haters that have said he shouldn't have moaned about the budget give the same treatment to Oscar - I lay a hefty sum they don't !!!

Can't see he moaning every saturday about it Gus had 4 season to mount a challenge but oscar is expected to do it straight away.

 

[saafend_seagull]

Where is this quote from?

Seen now.

Just looks like he is slightly complaining about additional duties he has. He wants NO input with transfers by the looks of things.

 

[pork pie]

So? it was clearly a ploy to downplay expectations.

You don't go into a transfer window declaring "We are so RICH". Teams will automatically double the price of their players once approached and fans expectations would go through the roof.

I still can't understand how some people don't get this.

You want to sell a player and you value him at £1m. West Brom come in. You will accept £1m. Man Utd come in? You ask for £2m based on their financial ability.

It's just common sense. I don't CARE that fans got annoyed by it. I don't care what his interviews said. I only cared about the team on the pitch before my eyes and, on the whole, Gus got a VERY good team together for a reasonable price. All fine by me.

You really are stupid aren't you!

Do you think Poyet should have also made his comments after the Playoff Semi as well?

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Sorry, but that is a complete mis-interpretation of what he's saying. What he actually means (I'm pretty sure) is "It's not easy, with the budgets, to do this job". Or, "It is difficult to manage the budget, as well as everything else on the football side as it was in Israel, where there was a sporting director to deal with those sorts of things."

Gus is more likely to have said: "It's not easy to do this job with the budget I've got".

There is a world of difference between the two scenarios, IMO.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Do you think Poyet should have also made his comments after the Playoff Semi as well?

Which ones exactly.

 

[soistes]

The Naylor argument is a selective summary of a conversation/interview he has had with Oscar.

My interpretation of it is simply that Oscar is saying that things are done differently here (in England) to what he has been used to in Spain and Israel, and he is having to get used to the differences. These differences presumably relate both the the precise role of the manager in player recruitment, and also to the implications of FFP.

I don't see this as a big deal. If you actually watch any interviews with OG, he comes over as calm, balanced and sensible, and the kind of bloke who does not speak before thinking.

On the budget issue, it's also worth remembering that he is having to operate under a different regime (the full impact of FFP) than Gus did. Just because he mentions the simple fact that this regime makes life more difficult, I don't see this in any way as comparable to Gus's frequent "shoot from the hip" type whinges.

 

[Albumen]

Sounds like a manager not enjoying the transfer window dealings while trying to coach his team.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

To be clear, I think most people know Oscar isn't moaning about the budgets.

The inference is that Gus, making EXACTLY the same words, would have been received differently.

Either way, it's not really much of an issue as it's all downplaying budget/expectations/likelyhood of signings which is pretty standard.

Fingers crossed we can maybe get a loan striker in to help the shortfall.