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[Albion] It's all about the Pace about the Pace
- Thread starter Ding Dong !
- Start date
The Josh King who hasn’t played yet this season due to sulking over his move to West Ham failing and then having a bad back for the last 2 months
Skaville
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Look at Leeds Potter, they break with pace, look threatening every time they go forward, score goals and make it hard for teams to defend. Yes they also are left vulnerable at the back and leak goals too but look at their position in the table.
Our lot just don't know what the f%ck to do in the last 3rd.
We are one paced attacking and struggle to get beyond or behind opponents defence. That's why we cannot score.......we are one paced......SLOW and easy to defend against.
Couldn’t agree more and players like Connolly and Welbeck want the ball early into the channels. Don’t blame the players though, it’s clearly tactical. I don’t mind us playing possession based football but FFS, mix it up.
Skaville
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13 attempts? How many of those were actually decent chances? We created nothing more than a half chance all game.
This with knobs on! The players don't have to be fast (although it helps if some of them are) but the ball does! Passing from side to side, although frustrating to watch at times, does have a point -iot moves the defence around, has them chasing to mark their men and try to keep their shape. Or at least it does when the ball is pinged around fast.
Rolling the ball gently from one to another, as we do, does none of this - the defence have ample time to stroll into position - and if they break into a bit of a trot may even get to the ball before it reaches the Brighton player it was passed to!
The ball can cover the ground umpteen times faster than even the fastest running player; yes, even along the ground, so don't bore me by shouting about hoofball. We desperately need to start making the ball travel from A to B (A and B being Brighton players!) much faster.
Skaville
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Nonsense. You just have to move the ball quicker and exploit the space I behind the defence. Welbeck and Connolly will run the channels all day if they think they might actually get a ball there in the 90 minutes. Look at the Liverpool and Villa games
Trelford Mills Guide Dog
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- Jun 14, 2008
- 575
Agree with this.
We do move the ball very ‘Gus-like’ which gives the opposition time to get back / get compact, and make it more difficult for us to create half decent chances, often forcing us wide and - more often than not - mopping up any crosses.
I think moving the ball faster will help move the opposition out of shape, creating gaps for that killer ball in to the box, which will help create more gilt-edged chances.
albionalbino
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Somewhat annoyingly Leeds are an exciting, entertaining team to watch.
They've adapted brilliantly to the top flight and continue to play the game their way.
their style of play will inevitability see them concede and they will take the odd beating but they are thrilling to watch on the break.
They've adapted brilliantly to the top flight and continue to play the game their way.
their style of play will inevitability see them concede and they will take the odd beating but they are thrilling to watch on the break.
T soprano
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Agree with OP
said exactly the same things during half time last night when they showed the 4 Leeds goals v wba
I thought that was the style and route we were going down by appointing Potter but he seems to have ripped up that & his blueprint of supposed playing style
As somebody already mentioned in this thread you dont need players with pace just put pace on the ball with quick passing and movement, of players I’m astonished how pedestrian our play has become
said exactly the same things during half time last night when they showed the 4 Leeds goals v wba
I thought that was the style and route we were going down by appointing Potter but he seems to have ripped up that & his blueprint of supposed playing style
As somebody already mentioned in this thread you dont need players with pace just put pace on the ball with quick passing and movement, of players I’m astonished how pedestrian our play has become
willalbion
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Yeah he’s an excellent manager and the hype around him appears justified.
willalbion
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Exactly, stats are misleading. We’re so unthreatening it’s absurd.
willalbion
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Yeah I agree, I was cursing our lack or movement upfront last couple of games. But the runs will stop being made if the passes never come. That’s coaching right? I don’t understand how we’ve fallen so far from our opening games of the season. I guess the trouble with a footballing philosophy is without winning games the players think it’s a bag of shat. AND I’m Potter in.
Skaville
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I just can’t understand how a manager who started out with such flexibility has become so rigid:
- the five at the back seems to be built around Lamptey and March but last night we played it with Veltman and Bernado !!!
- zonal marking clearly isn’t working but we keep doing it
- teams just pack the box and allow us to get wide and play balls in to diminutive strikers but we keep doing it
- zero consistency in team selection clearly not helping the players but he can’t help tinkering
- he rarekg plays to the strikers strengths even though it worked as recently as Liverpool and Villa
- slow, patient build up now entirely predictable and easy to defend
BRIGHT ON Q
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- Jul 5, 2003
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The only flaw here is take Lamptey out the team and we have no pace
Machiavelli
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And I agree with this. Oh for a bit of intensity. I'm not asking for a 90 minute Bielsa-style blast, but playing long in the channels when that option is available, and having specific periods in the game when we go for it. We're too passive at present.
clockend1983
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- Apr 1, 2010
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I think even the most blinkered among are stating to
realise this mate
Hope he changes it
realise this mate
Hope he changes it
sussex_guy2k2
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- Jun 6, 2014
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It does seem strange that he’s been here for 18 months and we’re no closer to having the pace required to play this system than we were when he arrived. Particularly when you compare to how he set Swansea up.
Perkino
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- Dec 11, 2009
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I'm not interested in Leeds or what they may be achieving but more aware of those pushing for titles. Liverpool, Man City, Man United, Leicester, Spurs et al all move the ball very quickly and transition from defence to attack in an instance. I appreciate we don't have players with the same level of ability but do notice we conceade plenty of goals by loosing the ball in our own move and the opposition breaking on us
blue-shifted
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Not every goal in this league is a .99%XG, your mum could score it, tap in.
Every now and then, if we're to stay up we need a goal from a half chance. Ali J's shot, i'd say is a 1 in 4 chance at this level, MacAllisters shot, maybe a 1 in 6 at this level, same with Burn's header. My point is, we're not scoring any of them at the moment + we're missing sitters when we get them.
In particular the number of chances our defenders have missed from corners is inexcusible, I know Dunky got one the other day. Taken individually, none of those chances was easier to score than miss. But we've missed probably 30 half chances from these situations and our rivals are scoring 1 in 10 rather than 1 in 30. (Vestergaard against us is a good example) . Burn's technique yesterday made it look like he was trying to hoik it as high as he could. Not good enough