LamieRobertson
Not awoke
A manority..........somewhere between a majority and a minority?
I reckon he's being clever...one word covering two meanings ..genius
A manority..........somewhere between a majority and a minority?
What a complete load of b0ll0cks.
Catalan was a separate nation for hundreds of years. They have their own language and culture totally different to Spanish. Their language was BANNED until 40 years ago. Jail or death for just speaking it.
They have been an independent nation in history.
Crawley hasn't.
Ignorant post assuming you know what you are talking about when obviously you don't.
So, out of interest, what exactly do you think Franco would have done differently in these circumstances (apart from being more extreme, brutal and bloody)?
What a complete load of b0ll0cks.
Catalan was a separate nation for hundreds of years. They have their own language and culture totally different to Spanish. Their language was BANNED until 40 years ago. Jail or death for just speaking it.
They have been an independent nation in history.
Crawley hasn't.
Ignorant post assuming you know what you are talking about when obviously you don't.
Yes, I see what you are saying. The referendum did show 90% in favour, but then, if all figures can be believed, only 43% of eligible voters bothered, and one could safely assume that most of the other 57% would have voted -no. Given that this is presumably the scenario, why doesn't the Spanish Government endorse democracy and agree to a proper referendum, which is likely to give them an outcome they want. Repression usually drives folk into a corner. That to my mind makes sense, but I don't pretend to know that much about it.
That's a pretty big assumption to make. Lets assume that the turnout would have reached 86% (double the actual and a decent turnout), then you'd need 90% of the other 43% to balance things. I'm not so certain your assumption is correct.
If they had allowed a legal referendum, almost inevitably it would have resulted in a no, as polling showed pre-referendum a majority of 60/40 in favour or remaining part of Spain. This would then have decided the matter for a generation. By insisting on no dialogue and imposing direct rule, that 60% is likely to go down rather than up. Spain is storing up a lot of problems for the future by this course of action IMO
You just undermined your argument there.
Yes, you may be right. We don't know of course. I am only basing this on what I read, namely that those in C who prefer to stay with Spain do not get involved in voting and ignored the referendum. Not very scientific of course, but if you are keen on independence then you far are more likely to be active. In any case it is worth putting it to the test, and let them have a proper vote or whatever.
No, I think not. Your ridiculing of someone else's post is looking rather shaky though.
Pretty sure that was David Cameron’s rationale with the Brexit vote. It didn’t quite work out how the polls predicted...If they had allowed a legal referendum, almost inevitably it would have resulted in a no, as polling showed pre-referendum a majority of 60/40 in favour or remaining part of Spain. This would then have decided the matter for a generation. By insisting on no dialogue and imposing direct rule, that 60% is likely to go down rather than up. Spain is storing up a lot of problems for the future by this course of action IMO
Oh, good one. Go for abuse - so clever. My respect for you is ever growing..........................not. Goodbye.Then you’re a cretin for not being able to tell the difference between Franco, Hitler and today’s Spanish leadership, who are in no way comparable. What else is there to do but ridicule such idiotic reasoning? And of course the level of sarchasm is proportionate to the level of stupidity in such instances.
Pretty sure that was David Cameron’s rationale with the Brexit vote. It didn’t quite work out how the polls predicted...
How would it be possible to have a ‘legal’ referendum, binding or otherwise, when the Spanish constitution specifically states that secession from the Spanish nation by any region is not an option. The constitution would have to be amended before any referendum could be held and that would open up a can of worms with regards to the Basque Country.