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Isn't it time Corbyn & his Henchmen were called to account ?



Oh dear. Because I oppose blatant attempts by a socialist dictatorship to remove democracy completely by making opposition to it a treasonable offence, I therefore support Trump?

In short, no. I would never vote for that buffoon. I do however support the opposition in Venezuela in their attempts to restore freedom and prosperity to the Venezuelan people.

Yep nailed it. You'd definitely vote Trump because it's completely consistent with the rest of your crap rightwing politics
 




CheeseRolls

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 27, 2009
6,233
Shoreham Beach
Wasting your time. Hypocrisy and turning a blind eye to all their glaring inadequacies is the norm for many now. Bullying and intimidation ..http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-from-bullying-and-intimidation-a7135081.html .. https://www.theguardian.com/politic...on-jeremy-corbyn-to-act-over-escalating-abuse .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-36804987 .. nothing to see here.

Highlighting this or their past satements and actions = a smear. Questioning or criticizing the actions of a Corbyn 'government in waiting' leads to the usual 'look at the Tories instead' line. Can't we do both? Wonder when interrogating the opposition policies/polticians/actions become so unfair .. :rolleyes:.

Some valid points there JC. Not sure that you necessarily practice what you preach though. I am starting to think of you as the Lord Haw Haw of Brexit, every piece of news you post is just fabulous, as the country goes from strength to strength and our negotiating and trade teams lay down the foundations for our future prosperity. Maybe I am suffering from social media, just reflecting back my own prejudices, but I think there may be slightly more grey clouds than you acknowledge.

FWIW I do think Corbyn and momentum are happy to adopt bullying tactics to push the labour party in the direction they choose, I don't think it is necessarily a factor in this case. Equally I don't imagine that the remain camp in the Tory party are stunned into silence by the amazing Brexit strategy that is unfolding.
 




jackanada

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2011
3,510
Brighton
Who's the smartest man in the country?

Did you go for Stephen Hawking? He voted labour.
If you're still supporting the conservatives maybe your beliefs need more critical reflection.

Off topic I know but always worth considering.
 


Oh do keep up. I've already said I wouldn't. I wouldn't even vote Tory at the moment because of their getting into bed with the DUP.


What is it with NSC's top Tory boys at the moment, has Corbyn totally knocked the stuffing out of you all? Get with the lads on Activate who want to gas all the chavs
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Yep nailed it. You'd definitely vote Trump because it's completely consistent with the rest of your crap rightwing politics

You need to look in the mirror comrade

Anti globalisation *tick*

Give the elites/establishment a kick message *tick*

Anti NATO *tick*

Chaotic Leadership style *tick*

Whine on about media bias *tick*

Love the company of anti semites *tick*

Offer Simplistic solutions to complex issues *tick*

Appoint numerous people to your team who are clearly incompetent *tick*

Watch many of them resign or jump ship *tick*

Hold lots of rallies with your deluded hardcore followers*tick*

Loves a strong Russian Leader *tick*

Surround yourself with extremist loons *tick*

Intolerance of people who don't follow your world view *tick*

Mealy mouthed responses to acts of terror *tick*

Sound familiar? You'd be a Trump man all day long :D
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
What is it with NSC's top Tory boys at the moment, has Corbyn totally knocked the stuffing out of you all? Get with the lads on Activate who want to gas all the chavs

I'm still a Tory, don't fret and as evidenced earlier, still against socialism. Corbyn's got nothing to do with my not supporting Theresa May and everything to do with her doing deals with religious zealots, homophobes and terrorist sympathisers. And if I'm not going to get with that, I'm hardly likely to get with a load of Jew-hating, Monday Club wannabees any more than getting in with the anti-Semite crowd that has attached itself to Labour or the Lib Dems.

I've given you plenty of chances but you still seem unable to get your head around the fact that just because someone isn't left-wing, it doesn't necessarily mean they're a Breitbart-reading alt-right, Hopkins fanboy.
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Who's the smartest man in the country?

Did you go for Stephen Hawking? He voted labour.
If you're still supporting the conservatives maybe your beliefs need more critical reflection.

Off topic I know but always worth considering.

But he also described Corbyn as a disaster. That would need to be considered also according to your rules, n'est pas?

Trust me, I've given a lifetime's consideration to my beliefs. I've read Hayek and Popper, Disraeli, Adam Smith, De Tocqueville. The modern world has proven to me that time and again, Marx was wrong when he said that the collapse of capitalism is inevitable. I've never been more sure that socialism doesn't work and that it doesn't create the free-est societies. Trouble is, politics and economics are not empirical sciences. Politics isn't even a science, IMO. Most of us want the same things ultimately, we just disagree on how that can be achieved.
 




CheeseRolls

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 27, 2009
6,233
Shoreham Beach
I'm still a Tory, don't fret and as evidenced earlier, still against socialism. Corbyn's got nothing to do with my not supporting Theresa May and everything to do with her doing deals with religious zealots, homophobes and terrorist sympathisers. And if I'm not going to get with that, I'm hardly likely to get with a load of Jew-hating, Monday Club wannabees any more than getting in with the anti-Semite crowd that has attached itself to Labour or the Lib Dems.

I've given you plenty of chances but you still seem unable to get your head around the fact that just because someone isn't left-wing, it doesn't necessarily mean they're a Breitbart-reading alt-right, Hopkins fanboy.

As an aside - so who do you regard as the good guys in Northern Ireland or are they all equally deserving of your opprobrium.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Some valid points there JC. Not sure that you necessarily practice what you preach though. I am starting to think of you as the Lord Haw Haw of Brexit, every piece of news you post is just fabulous, as the country goes from strength to strength and our negotiating and trade teams lay down the foundations for our future prosperity. Maybe I am suffering from social media, just reflecting back my own prejudices, but I think there may be slightly more grey clouds than you acknowledge.

FWIW I do think Corbyn and momentum are happy to adopt bullying tactics to push the labour party in the direction they choose, I don't think it is necessarily a factor in this case. Equally I don't imagine that the remain camp in the Tory party are stunned into silence by the amazing Brexit strategy that is unfolding.

Thankyou. Always a realist me and have never said it will be plain sailing. My numerous Brexit Sunny Uplands reports are purely a reaction/antidote to the gloomerati. It does pain them so to read good/positive news about UKPLC :wink:

Yep bullying and intimidation when they haven't got full control of the party, god knows what will happen if they do get real power. Extremists aren't known for reigning in their worst excesses are they!
 


aberllefenni

Active member
Jan 15, 2009
467
You need to look in the mirror comrade

Anti globalisation *tick*

Give the elites/establishment a kick message *tick*

Anti NATO *tick*

Chaotic Leadership style *tick*

Whine on about media bias *tick*

Love the company of anti semites *tick*

Offer Simplistic solutions to complex issues *tick*

Appoint numerous people to your team who are clearly incompetent *tick*

Watch many of them resign or jump ship *tick*

Hold lots of rallies with your deluded hardcore followers*tick*

Loves a strong Russian Leader *tick*

Surround yourself with extremist loons *tick*

Intolerance of people who don't follow your world view *tick*

Mealy mouthed responses to acts of terror *tick*

Sound familiar? You'd be a Trump man all day long :D

You may be a football genius but you're certainly not a political one. How do we give the elite/establishment a kick. I know, lets employ half of Goldman Sachs.
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
As an aside - so who do you regard as the good guys in Northern Ireland or are they all equally deserving of your opprobrium.

I think there's still a lot of good guys on all sides. The SDLP, the Alliance Party, The Greens, Ulster Unionists and to a much lesser extent Fianna Fail (as with the DUP, extremely dodgy views on homosexuality and abortion) are all groups whose intentions, even if I disagree with them, are honest and well-meaning. The DUP, to my mind, is as pernicious as Sinn Fein. It's riddled with links to other British far-right groups and to loyalist terrorist groups.
 


Brighton Mod

Its All Too Beautiful
Widely available in the media does not mean that it isn't largely fabricated character attacks orchestrated by a handful of billionaires who profit at the expense of the vast majority under Tory and Blairite rule.

Ok, fella, your deep into Corbyn, no discussion here worth while. You have a strange view of things. Corbyn won't win a General Election and the university towns will not return unexpected Labour Mps again. He's had his day, he has more problems than May.
 


Ok, fella, your deep into Corbyn, no discussion here worth while. You have a strange view of things. Corbyn won't win a General Election and the university towns will not return unexpected Labour Mps again. He's had his day, he has more problems than May.

As evidenced by what, the highest Labour poll ratings for a decade? :laugh:
 




I'm still a Tory, don't fret and as evidenced earlier, still against socialism. Corbyn's got nothing to do with my not supporting Theresa May and everything to do with her doing deals with religious zealots, homophobes and terrorist sympathisers. And if I'm not going to get with that, I'm hardly likely to get with a load of Jew-hating, Monday Club wannabees any more than getting in with the anti-Semite crowd that has attached itself to Labour or the Lib Dems.

I've given you plenty of chances but you still seem unable to get your head around the fact that just because someone isn't left-wing, it doesn't necessarily mean they're a Breitbart-reading alt-right, Hopkins fanboy.

Next time the antisemitic fash are marching through Brighton, the left will there facing them down and bigmouths like you will be sitting at home reading Guido :thumbsup:
 


Brighton Mod

Its All Too Beautiful
As evidenced by what, the highest Labour poll ratings for a decade? :laugh:

Its not whose winning the race, its about who wins the race. Corbyn has to make up 60 seats, make up his mind on Brexit, deal with the students he deceived, have a credible front bench, not make any slip ups and have some real questioning by the press and not be allowed to get away with generalisations and populism.

Polls who gets them right these days?
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Next time the antisemitic fash are marching through Brighton, the left will there facing them down and bigmouths like you will be sitting at home reading Guido :thumbsup:

Blimey, that's a desperate throw of the dice seeing as you're the one mouthing off and calling people names from the safety of your computer, matey, whereas I've tried to give reasonable responses that you've completely ignored, as per usual.
 








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