Is this an attack on the Working Class?

[vegster]

Other than the quip about " Looking like Ken dipped in tea and covered in biro..." not much of interest. It's true about the tattoos though, they are getting bigger and ever more meaningless.

 

[willyfantastic]

That's it in a nutshell. He's spent quite a bit of time amongst white working class males but clearly doesn't get the English working class culture and he certainly feels threatened by it. It's noticeable that none of this bile ever surfaced when he was making his "Big Day Out.." series. Too chicken to open his gob then but back amongst his hipster chums he can sneer to his heart's content.

Tell you what, whilst he's trying hard looking too cool for school in the Hoxton Bar and Grill with his chums with their overgrown beards, tweed and naff prison tats (now there's a stereotype that deserves derision) the lads that he professes to hate are having a great time with their mates.

hypocrite.

 

[melias shoes]

Total drivel - there has always been outlandish clothing, wild hair, posturing and preening in young British male fashion and sub-culture. There's nothing fundamentally different about what we see today compared to what has gone before.

This. Total cobblers. Had to force myself to finish reading it. Nonsense.

 

[hybrid_x]

The writing of the article is awful, and he is trying but failing to make a very good point:

social culture in england with the youth is extremelly synthetic, corporate led, and toxic.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

He's obviously nailed it judging by the spluttering overreaction on here.

 

[Questions]

Not so much an attack on working class young men as an attack on tattooed, posing twats.
Although I did run out steam before the end.

 

[DJ Leon]

He's obviously nailed it judging by the spluttering overreaction on here.

I think so. I'm fairly baffled as to why this is being attacked so vehemently. It's a fairly amusing piece with some withering put downs (illiterate? really?). There's certainly little evidence of this being anything to do with class.

I know nothing about the writer, but I assume there is previous given the general overreaction.

 

[vegster]

The writing of the article is awful, and he is trying but failing to make a very good point:

social culture in england with the youth is extremelly synthetic, corporate led, and toxic.

You phrased that lousy.

 

[Man of Harveys]

Well the genius that wrote the piece has been well and truly 'owned' in the twitter spat, which was far more revealing and interesting than the article.

Simon Price is not only a brilliantly clever, funny - and also incredibly nice - chap (he's a friend of a friend), I also truly pity anyone truly foolish enough to clash swords with him in the written form. It's like Mike Tyson in a bare-knuckle bout vs Dan Harding.

FWIW I thought that piece was trying a little too hard to provoke but otherwise silly and mildly entertaining fluff, hardly some grand manifesto. Funny how class is SUCH a big taboo still.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

What a dreadful article. I didn't take as it as an attack on the working classes though, just a sad, bitter rant that reads as if it has been written by a school child feeling threatened by his peers.

 

[Buzzer]

You're right Simon Price is a very sharp cookie.

Have I over-reacted? Probably but the constant sneer at youth culture from Chris Martin grates. Made worse by the fact that he uses the word 'douchebag' with no shame whatsoever.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

Apologies. I'm not following what's being said. What has Simon Price said about the article?

 

[dazzer6666]

https://twitter.com/simon_price01/status/444122109997223936

 

[Guinness Boy]

Apologies. I'm not following what's being said. What has Simon Price said about the article?

That it's an attack on the working class. I wish he'd just said it was shit.

 

[Guinness Boy]

The writing of the article is awful, and he is trying but failing to make a very good point:

social culture in england with the youth is extremelly synthetic, corporate led, and toxic.

No he's trying to make the point that a lot of young lads these days take Creatine in order to get laid. He does make it badly though.

 

[Guinness Boy]

"Classist" - when did this awful made-up world creep into the vocab, noticed it a lot recently. We've proudly had many centuries of class war in this country without need of that american verbiage

It's not an Americanism. It's come to prominence because as racism and sexism become ever more unacceptable and uncommon (a good thing, obviously) the left needs a new stick to beat people with. And yes, I'm aware I'm the one who used it, but as you said it's prominent.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Yes, completely. It's a nasty, spiteful piece of writing. Other professional writers have also pointed out that it hints at being homophobic too. He's an awful writer, an awful broadcaster and a snidey piece of shit.

This will tell you all you need to know about him, his grasp of English and his take on the English nation, from an interview in totallydublin.ie:

"Well there are some subjects that would be considered too lowbrow to cover by some people. Me and my editor, for example, are really interested in A Question of Sport. We think it gives a real insight into the British psyche."



....And quelle surprise, he's also a regular columnist in the Guardian.

Fairly ignorant comment about the Guardian. I don't think this bloke is a particularly frequent contributor and, even if he were, the Guardian uses a wide range of columnists with a wide range of views and interests. There isn't a "typical Guardian Columnist", if that is what you are trying to imply.

And for the record, I thought the article was fairly tedious. If I had come across it in the Guardian, I would not have bothered reading it.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Fairly ignorant comment about the Guardian. I don't think this bloke is a particularly frequent contributor and, even if he were, the Guardian uses a wide range of columnists with a wide range of views and interests. There isn't a "typical Guardian Columnist", if that is what you are trying to imply.

And for the record, I thought the article was fairly tedious. If I had come across it in the Guardian, I would not have bothered reading it.

In fact, while providing occasional copy for The Guardian, Clive Martin has also been slagging them off on twitter because they organised an anti lad-culture event with the NUS. if they take another piece from him it's to their credit and his detriment.

Contrast this with the Telegraph who took on a columnist I know because he was trendy and controversial and then they fell out with one another because he was trendy and controversial.

 

[BLOCK F]

Not so much an attack on working class young men as an attack on tattooed, posing twats.
Although I did run out steam before the end.

Agreed.
And so did I .

 

[Creaky]

So what if it is an attack on the 'Working Class'?

Are such attacks not allowed?