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Is Nick Clegg really sorry??



Greyrun

New member
Feb 23, 2009
1,074
I thought the figures were if you earn under £21000 there is nothing to repay, all earnings above this figure are charged at 9%,so if you earn £40000 the cost is 19x9=£1710or£34per week,after30years the debt is written off,not an onerous amount to pay for a decent education.
 






banjo

GOSBTS
Oct 25, 2011
13,428
Deep south
I think he's a really nice bloke.................................................:eek:







I'm sorry I'm sorry I,m so so sorry. :facepalm:
 


marshy68

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2011
2,868
Brighton
He sold his soul and the integrity of his entire party, believing wrongly that he was going to 'share' power. He's embarrassed himself and committed long-term political career suicide.

Of course he's sorry.

agreed, he will be very sorry when the next general election results are in....
 








Don Quixote

Well-known member
Nov 4, 2008
8,362
but at least cameron is open about being a twat....

The policies on here that everyone is slating were and are Conservative policies. The people of the country went to the polling stations and they got what they asked for, a conservative majority.
 


marshy68

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2011
2,868
Brighton
The policies on here that everyone is slating were and are Conservative policies. The people of the country went to the polling stations and they got what they asked for, a conservative majority.

A majority that would not have been able to run the country unless it entered into a coalition. I think the point is for liberal supporters ( i am not one of them) is that Clegg gave up on his key pre election policies and principles he even compromised on proportional representation. He sold everything down the river to gain power and the Tories gave up nothing. In my opinion he will preside over the death of the liberal democrats as a politcal force in this country and wherever you are on the political spectrum that cant be a good thing.
 




Jul 24, 2003
2,289
Newbury, Berkshire.
Nick Clegg, " thanks for giving me the levers of power, now I can shaft you all and reveal my true colours.......... "

David Cameron, " that's my boy....... Now lets get on and fill out our expenses for the month ( pssst, don't remind everyone that Parliament was in recess......... ) "
 












APACHE

LONGTIME DIEHARD
Feb 18, 2011
758
THE PROMISED LAND-SUSSEX
There's an old saying ' that a vote for the Libs, is a vote wasted, it's never been more truer than with this lot who have helped the Cons just about shaft everyone except their rich chums. Clegg and his party can say sorry but if they really were why did they go alomg with it all, grow some and stop the Cons .
 




Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
Regardless of whether I agree or disagree with it, we can't have politicians doing the opposite of what they were voted into power to do.

Exactly. I would like to see manifestos have six election 'guarantees' for each party. If the party in power were to break an election guarantee, their votes in parliament are cut by 10% for each guarantee they break.
 


Lethargic

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2006
3,511
Horsham
The problem I have is that we simply don't know what influence the lib dems have for all we know the torus might have been trying to impose a right wing junta but the lib dem have dragged them back towards the centre, not saying this is the case just that no one really knows the level of influence.
Back to the original question he is a politician of cause he's sorry but only in terms of his career.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,019


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
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They should announce: 'We don't believe higher education is for a tiny rich minority, and access to the benefits should be for all, to the overall benefit of the country. We are not going to end the aspirations of bright future big taxpayers simple because their parents don't have a spare £40-50,000 kicking about .'

I don't like the Lib Dems at all ( although more for what Lewes DC did rather than what they've done in government ) BUT the above statement intrigues me. Why exactly does a students parents need that sort of money for a their child to go to university ?

The system is very simple, anyone intelligent enough can go as there are no up front fees and you don't starting paying back until you get a certain salary. Your parents income is irrelevant. It's everybody's right to object to the policy but it might help if the facts were used in the argument.
 




DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
I thought the figures were if you earn under £21000 there is nothing to repay, all earnings above this figure are charged at 9%,so if you earn £40000 the cost is 19x9=£1710or£34per week,after30years the debt is written off

This is true, but not the point if you make a pledge/promise that you will personally vote against any rise above the (then) current fees.

not an onerous amount to pay for a decent education.

If you pay less than your lifetime earnings increase as a result of having a degree, it's still the right decision to go to university. Of course, that alone doesn't even nearly make it 'fair' - and I'm not saying it is!
 


Gullzone

New member
Apr 14, 2012
168
This Green and Pleasant Land
he's an absolute prick - spoilt little rich kid who now tells us what we should and shouldnt be doing - feckin hypocrite
 


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