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Is Nick Clegg really sorry??
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Tooting Gull
Well-known member
- Jul 5, 2003
- 11,033
As mentioned earlier, he's not sorry about the policy at all, just the fact that he promised something as it turned out he couldn't deliver. That's not saying much, I reckon if he asked for a cup of tea in Cabinet the Tories would tell him to get stuffed.
It's a genius policy. The country and economy are in a mess, so let's at a stroke ensure that intelligent young people who can contribute in a big way are not afforded the chance to develop their skills purely because they can't afford it.
If you thought the way decent jobs are allocated now is for a self-perpetuating elite...wait five years or so.
It's a genius policy. The country and economy are in a mess, so let's at a stroke ensure that intelligent young people who can contribute in a big way are not afforded the chance to develop their skills purely because they can't afford it.
If you thought the way decent jobs are allocated now is for a self-perpetuating elite...wait five years or so.
Twinkle Toes
Growing old disgracefully
A slimy egotist who sold his soul - & that of his long-time-rubbish party - for the aphrodisiac of power & influence: & ended up with Jack Shit.
ps The above could describe the succession of odious 'Leaders' that I've had the misfortune to witness for many years now tbh. Wouldn't trust any of 'em further than I could spit a mouthful of salt-water sewage.
ps The above could describe the succession of odious 'Leaders' that I've had the misfortune to witness for many years now tbh. Wouldn't trust any of 'em further than I could spit a mouthful of salt-water sewage.
Not so sure he sold his soul. I think he was always to the right of his party.
Personally, I can see the lib dems splitting soon after the next election, particularly if they are in meltdown. The recriminations will really set in then. I can see Clegg, Laws and Alexander (plus a few others) joining the Tories, with Cable etc returning to Labour.
We will then have two main parties vying for power, which suits the political system we are in.
brightonlass2009
Sports sports sports!
Of course he isn't sorry. Nick Clegg always agreed with tuition fees going up he just went with the party pledge because that was the official party line.
glasfryn
cleaning up cat sick
Smarmy little turd
Lord Bracknell
On fire
So how exactly are politicians going to run election campaigns in future?from what i gather, he is sorry that he made a pre-election pledge.
for once im confident this is very genuine - politicans are always sorry for making policy pledges that they have to then deal with once in power. how was he to know he'd have to go through with it?
Voters:- What will you do if elected?
Candidate:- I'm not saying.
Silent Bob
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- Dec 6, 2004
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Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,269
I take on board all of the above, but the fact remains if all parties campaign on the basis they will be the sole party of government and the electorate throws up a coalition then there will be key manifesto promises that will simply not be delivered because of the very compromise nature of a coalition.
The Liberals big mistake was going into the election with a flagship policy that BOTH main parties were unequivocally going to reject outright.
With the right leadership I don't think tuition fees is necessarily a killer for the Liberals, partly because the other two parties are so bloody awful too. If Clegg were to go it might be an idea to give Cable the gig for a couple of years, as he is still respected and can steer the party through.
The Liberals big mistake was going into the election with a flagship policy that BOTH main parties were unequivocally going to reject outright.
With the right leadership I don't think tuition fees is necessarily a killer for the Liberals, partly because the other two parties are so bloody awful too. If Clegg were to go it might be an idea to give Cable the gig for a couple of years, as he is still respected and can steer the party through.
Geriatric Seagull
New member
Any credibility Clegg might have had has long since disappeared- at the next election he will be lucky to save his seat. While he is in charge the Lib-Dems will have no chance. Last I heard he was bidding for a part in a remake of "The Man Who Never Was"!
Phat Baz 68
Get a ****ing life mate !
- Apr 16, 2011
- 5,026
Ummm WHO 
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?Tooting Gull
Well-known member
- Jul 5, 2003
- 11,033
Something in that.
Seems to me to be a glaring opportunity for Labour here to rethink their policy.
They should announce: 'We don't believe higher education is for a tiny rich minority, and access to the benefits should be for all, to the overall benefit of the country. We are not going to end the aspirations of bright future big taxpayers simple because their parents don't have a spare £40-50,000 kicking about .'
Massive vote-winner, blows LibDems out of water, gives Tories a big headache.
They can pay for it by dealing properly with the tax-dodging non-doms, and probably pay for the NHS with what's left over.
Why would they need to PAY for it? Its only 'policy'. They can just scrap it once they're in.
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
- 20,686
I'm with Malcolm Tucker on this one, 'Quisling Wankers'
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,269
Whatever policies Labour come up with the fact remains they still have Ed Miliband in charge, and he is simply not Prime Minister material.
If Cable can succeed in getting the banks to lend more capital to businesses then that will be a big deal for him and the Liberals. My beef with the Tories is that they've failed to get the banks lending despite bailing them out and then lending money at discounted rates for the banks to pump back int the economy via busines loans.
Whether or not the Liberals can turn their fortunes around in the short-term depends on Cable's ability to shake things up and make things happen with the banks.
If Cable can succeed in getting the banks to lend more capital to businesses then that will be a big deal for him and the Liberals. My beef with the Tories is that they've failed to get the banks lending despite bailing them out and then lending money at discounted rates for the banks to pump back int the economy via busines loans.
Whether or not the Liberals can turn their fortunes around in the short-term depends on Cable's ability to shake things up and make things happen with the banks.
brakespear
Doctor Worm
Exactly what always got to me about him. At least the Tories, however much I may disagree with them, are just behaving as you'd expect Tories to behave once in power - but to sell out all your pledges, your party and all your voters for just a sniff of the air in the Cabinet Office......the man's pretty despicable alright.
yxee
Well-known member
And what did they do with the power they gained? Force through a doomed (and entirely self-serving) AV referendum. Working in a coalition is give and take: they gave away their main policy, and took nothing, apart from knocking the alternative vote idea into the long grass for another 20 years.
And another thing, why is this so late? Didn't they do this last year? Is it intentionally terrible timing?
And another thing, why is this so late? Didn't they do this last year? Is it intentionally terrible timing?
nicko31
Well-known member
I thought Clegg was actually starting to get real when he agreed students paying fees, but its all been undone now. I think Nick might be going to Uni himself soon.
Why do so many people in this country think the state should just provide? FGS you don't need to pay it back until you early a decent wedge, not like you've gotta find it all up front..
Why do so many people in this country think the state should just provide? FGS you don't need to pay it back until you early a decent wedge, not like you've gotta find it all up front..
As someone on Twitter pointed out, he's like the unfaithful husband who apologises not for his affair, but for having promised to be faithful in the first place. This "apology" only makes him look more of an !%&ehole as far as I'm concerned. His party will never again get my vote.