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Iran, Iraq & Terrorism - In Historical Context



Falmer

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Nov 22, 2010
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Oh my god - now I know you're an 18 year old with the intelligence of a six year old !!!!! Not ONCE does that video suggest Ron Paul doesn't believe 9/11 was carried out by Bin Laden or any of his organisations. In fact in it he only discusses Iraq. If you're going to debate at least use data and information LINKED to the topic rather than just random videos. D- for your work little boy and a detention for being such a plum !

Do you know of the 'blowback' theory Governments supposdly use?
 




BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,199
A very valid video - not sure that he's going to win on a "support our troops" campaign without further polices. Also worried about the message that flashed up "Stop foreign aid" - that would be absolutely the wrong thing to do. Overall though, the message of "don't go and invade other countries and we'll be safer" must surely be a good one.

I think the idea of the "stop foreign aid" quote is that if we stopped poking our noses into things that don't concern us then there would be less need for foreign aid.

There is a piece in this movie about Indonesia which illustrates the idea quite well.

http://johnpilger.com/videos/the-new-rulers-of-the-world
 
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Falmer

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Nov 22, 2010
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That was why I made the point about him being aggressive. He's incapable of having a debate without getting really arsey. Fair enough, if that's your way but don't then bleat on about bullying later on.

What the hell!?? read the thread, I've even written an apology for being such a horrible bully! What is the matter with people!!!??

If you didn' understand that then in black and white: I'M BEING CALLED THE BULLY.
 
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Falmer

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Nov 22, 2010
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I think the idea of the "stop foreign aid" quote is that if we stopped poking our noses into things that don't concern us then there would be less need for foreign aid.

Thats what I was thinking. Foreign-aid is almost becoming another word for 'invasion'.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Do you know of the 'blowback' theory Governments supposdly use?

Yes but you claimed Ron Paul didn't believe 9/11 was Bin Laden's doing which is a completely wrong, untrue statement. He believes American foreign policy meant Bin Laden decided to attack the USA the symptom was what America had done abroad BUT Bin Laden was still responsible for the twin towers attacks. Dear God, your debating intelligence hasn't even got to sixth form standard !
 




BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
18,199
Yes but you claimed Ron Paul didn't believe 9/11 was Bin Laden's doing which is a completely wrong, untrue statement. He believes American foreign meant Bin Laden decided to attack the USA the symptom was what America had done abroad BUT Bin Laden was still responsible for the twin towers attacks. Dear God, your debating intelligence hasn't even got to sixth form standard !

Then why continue to debate with him. As someone pointed out the other day, his conspiracy theory nonsense derails and hyjaks important discussion and debate. Don't let it!
 


Falmer

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Nov 22, 2010
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Yes but you claimed Ron Paul didn't believe 9/11 was Bin Laden's doing which is a completely wrong, untrue statement. He believes American foreign meant Bin Laden decided to attack the USA the symptom was what America had done abroad BUT Bin Laden was still responsible for the twin towers attacks. Dear God, your debating intelligence hasn't even got to sixth form standard !

Do you know alot about Bin Ladin Westdene?
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
I think the idea of the "stop foreign aid" quote is that if we stopped poking our noses into things that don't concern us then there would be less need for foreign aid.

There is a piece in this movie about Indonesia which illustrates the idea quite well.

http://johnpilger.com/videos/the-new-rulers-of-the-world

I guess there's different "types" of aid though - aid that supports political objectives and aid that just supports human survival. I support the later but not the former.
 




shellsuit

New member
Feb 5, 2009
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Oh my god - now I know you're an 18 year old with the intelligence of a six year old !!!!! Not ONCE does that video suggest Ron Paul doesn't believe 9/11 was carried out by Bin Laden or any of his organisations. In fact in it he only discusses Iraq. If you're going to debate at least use data and information LINKED to the topic rather than just random videos. D- for your work little boy and a detention for being such a plum !

ive also racked my brains as to where in that video there is the implication Ron Paul doesnt believe 9/11 was carried out by Bin Laden and why on earth Falmer would use it as evidence he does believe that.....i can only assume the dope is kicking in early today especially as that is Ron Paul speaking in 1998
 


Joey Deacon's Disco Suit

It's a THUG life
Apr 19, 2010
854
What the hell!?? read the thread, I've even written an apology for being such a horrible bully! What is the matter with people!!!??

If you didn' understand that then in black and white: I'M BEING CALLED THE BULLY.

You need to calm down, mate.
 






BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,199
I guess there's different "types" of aid though - aid that supports political objectives and aid that just supports human survival. I support the later but not the former.

Yes I Agree but maybe some countries wouldn't need either if left to their own devices.
 








Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
thats 2 question you've failed to answer now.
Look, please go and argue with someone of your greater intelligence. You and I seem like w'd go as far as Stephen Hawkins in a san-pit.

Your Maths is clearly as strong as your debating skills.
 






Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
hence why I've mentioned on that same post you having the higher intelligence. Any need to brag?

finished yet?

Depends - have you finished being a bellend ?
 








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