Insulate Britain protests

[Raleigh Chopper]

Now totally blocking the M25 running out in front of the traffic.

 

[Barry Izbak]

I wonder if they said the same thing about Emily Davison?


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One very brave woman. Shocked the country with her bravery, to draw attention to her cause.

An absolute insult to her memory to compare her with the M25 protesters

 

[el punal]

This is direct action. It’s supposed to inconvenience people. It’s supposed to piss people off. That’s how it works. Or doesn’t work. But it is the intention.

So why can’t the direct action be chaining yourself to the gates at Downing Street? More TV cameras and press there, closer to the nation’s decision makers and less chance of f***ing up the Great British public’s attempt at earning their daily crust.

Of course, the real threat with their current means of protest is that some pissed off 32 tonne HGV driver might decide to accidentally not apply his brakes and run the buggers over.

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

Now totally blocking the M25 running out in front of the traffic.

Hopefully in front of some juggernauts

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Hopefully in front of some juggernauts

Yes they are, HGV's stopping right in front of them,very dangerous, a few coppers trying to pull them away back onto the hard shoulder but the others then run out.
Whatever your views on protests are this is now ridiculously stupid and dangerous to innocent people on the motorway.

 

[Brovion]

Karl Marx said a bayonet was a weapon 'with a worker at both ends'. Isn't that the case here? Ordinary people, who care about the planet, disrupting the lives and livelihoods of ordinary people who care about the planet. The capitalist class itself isn't being inconvenienced in the slightest.

If I were a Conspiracy theorist I'd say that the protesters were all being financed by the insulation industry, or possibly the Chinese ...

Oh, and spoiler alert - these half-arsed 'playtime' protests won't actually achieve anything. Same as the Occupy protests or the Gilet Jaunes. (Remember those?) They have got to be seriously ramped up to the extent where Britain becomes ungovernable, at the moment, as far as the ruling class are concerned, they're not even an inconvenience.

 

[Withdean11]

I fully support their behaviour. Direct action is the only thing that will work now. As it is, it may be too late.

Clown.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Hopefully in front of some juggernauts

There’s a shortage of these, you’ll have to hope for something more realistic.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

That’s a pretty amateur attempt, but par for the course given previous posts from you that I’ve read.

I’ll let you work out the difference yourself. You should be able to.


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[Badger Boy]

I really can't understand why anyone thinks these people are doing the right thing here. They're risking their lives for nothing, not to mention their utter disregard for the drivers and passengers of the cars they're running in front of. It's so incredibly selfish. They're kicking off about insulating homes for crying out loud - on a junction of the M25. Absolutely ridiculous waste of their time, waste of police time and delaying people going about their day.

 

[The Clamp]

So why can’t the direct action be chaining yourself to the gates at Downing Street? More TV cameras and press there, closer to the nation’s decision makers and less chance of f***ing up the Great British public’s attempt at earning their daily crust.

Of course, the real threat with their current means of protest is that some pissed off 32 tonne HGV driver might decide to accidentally not apply his brakes and run the buggers over.

You’ve answered your own question. I’m not advocating what they’re doing. I’m not opposing it. I’m simply saying it’s designed to disrupt.

 

[The Clamp]

There’s a shortage of these, you’ll have to hope for something more realistic.

Perhaps a bus with some lies on the side?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I really can't understand why anyone thinks these people are doing the right thing here. They're risking their lives for nothing, not to mention their utter disregard for the drivers and passengers of the cars they're running in front of. It's so incredibly selfish. They're kicking off about insulating homes for crying out loud - on a junction of the M25. Absolutely ridiculous waste of their time, waste of police time and delaying people going about their day.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Perhaps a bus with some lies on the side?

 

[goldstone]

I saw a video circulating last week where the police were treating them with kid gloves, presumably because of their social class. I think they should be forcibly removed from the roads and chucked in a cell for a few days, doing stuff like this will not get the general public onside, despite the underlying message being a good one.

Agree with you 100% until it comes to your last eight words. I have no idea what they are protesting about so they cannot have been too successful in getting their message across. If they want the government to pay to insulate their homes (for government read taxpayer) then I recall getting my loft insulation and cavity wall insulation done for free or for very little a few years back, so the government has already helped. There are lots and lots of things that need fixing in this country, but only idiots would consider it practical to block roads to highlight every issue.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Now totally blocking the M25 running out in front of the traffic.

Just hit them

It’s just Collateral damage if one is paralysed

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Agree with you 100% until it comes to your last eight words. I have no idea what they are protesting about so they cannot have been too successful in getting their message across. If they want the government to pay to insulate their homes (for government read taxpayer) then I recall getting my loft insulation and cavity wall insulation done for free or for very little a few years back, so the government has already helped. There are lots and lots of things that need fixing in this country, but only idiots would consider it practical to block roads to highlight every issue.

You have no idea what they are protesting about – must be just random coincidence that you then decide to discuss exactly what they were protesting about.

 

[carlzeiss]

If the Police didn't turn up when the protestors called them there wouldn't be road blockages

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

If they are annoying people then their plan is working. No one gives a monkey's banana if there is a march of 100,000 people through London of a weekend or some entertaining billboard adverts put up so if you want attention you have to boil lots of people's urine.

Of course, if I was stuck on the M25 due to their antics then I would be less sanguine about it all though!

Here is the problem.

I heard one of them interviewed, saying that unless we reverse all the climate change in the next 4 years we will cross an event horizon and the planet will die.

Now, this is a hypothesis, and like all hypotheses it may be correct. However it isn't a very plausible hypothesis. A bit like 'if you eat all those sweets your teeth will all fall out'. When presented as incontrovertible fact it puts people off. If it puts me off, a scientist with some awareness of climate change, and a working understanding of the difference between climate and weather, what about other folk who maybe aren't versed in the scientific method and a fan of Carl Popper and the notion of hypothesis falsification?

So if you are concerned about climate change, realise that it is a political fooball, and take note that only when the population are motivated will there be change, and the task now is to get 'the people' onside. These are 'the people' who don't necessarily 'believe' in climate change or 'believe' that it getting a bit warmer is a bad thing.

Know thy constituency, and always remember that you cannot herd cats, especially when you shout at them, stick them in a car and lodge them in a traffic jam.

 

[The Clamp]

It’s a telling and depressing picture when someone takes a look at U.K. 2021 and decides it’s protestors that are the problem.