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India v England: Fourth Test, Wankhede Stadium, Mumbai 8-12 December













vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,274
Moeen or [MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION]?

Moeen, get to fifty then it's time to take a deep breath and build another 50, both our set batsmen gone now so the day has turned right around
 




spring hall convert

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
So, after 35 tests, I'm now sure Moeen Ali isn't good enough to make this side as either batsman or bowler.

If Rashid continues to outbowl him in this series, I'd like to see England try and find a proper batsman at number 5, Stokes 6, Bairstow 7, Woakes 8, Rashid 9 for series where only one spinner is needed.

Rashid is capable of batting far better in tests than we've seen so far. He has 10 first class hundreds to his name, more than competent enough for a Test Match Number 9.
 












larus

Well-known member
So, after 35 tests, I'm now sure Moeen Ali isn't good enough to make this side as either batsman or bowler.

If Rashid continues to outbowl him in this series, I'd like to see England try and find a proper batsman at number 5, Stokes 6, Bairstow 7, Woakes 8, Rashid 9 for series where only one spinner is needed.

Rashid is capable of batting far better in tests than we've seen so far. He has 10 first class hundreds to his name, more than competent enough for a Test Match Number 9.

I agree (but I know others won't). Barring average of 33 in tests. Bowling average of 39. Cook now appears to turn to Rashid more than Ali.
 




Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
26,001
Trivia question of the day:

Name the last England batsman to score a century and be dropped for the next Test.
 








ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,189
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Trivia question of the day:

Name the last England batsman to score a century and be dropped for the next Test.

KP in 2012. He would have would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling text messages.
 


spring hall convert

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
I agree (but I know others won't). Barring average of 33 in tests. Bowling average of 39. Cook now appears to turn to Rashid more than Ali.

I like Ali as a player a lot but he's had a lot of time now to learn on the job and he hasn't really got any better or been successful in defining his role. I'd like to see him bat 5 and be a more than competent occasional(ish) 2nd spinning option because I don't think he's ever going to be dangerous or stingy enough to be a top class front line spinner, I think we are (with the best of intentions) wasting our time trying to make him one. At the moment his batting isn't disciplined enough to be a test match number 5.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,841
Uffern
Trivia question of the day:

Name the last England batsman to score a century and be dropped for the next Test.

Second trivia question of the day

Who was the last England batsman to score a triple century and be dropped for the next test? (actually, he was first and last)
 


jakarta

Well-known member
May 25, 2007
15,738
Sullington
Second trivia question of the day

Who was the last England batsman to score a triple century and be dropped for the next test? (actually, he was first and last)

Blimey, the only England batsman I can remember making 300 was Graham Gooch against India.

Presume it was a Player rather than a Gentleman back in the 1920's or 30's? :p
 








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