I'm a compulsive gambler.

[EDS]

Yes, although you might be better off leaving your number of possible outcomes the same when writing the odds (so 14,000,000:4 rather than 3,500,000:1); same resultant number but easier to read to yourself as "this many outcomes, that many chances of winning".

Okay yep I was totally wrong. I just sat and worked it out on the laptop I apologise to those and concede defeat now you can all go and **** yourselves

 

[Seagull58]

Okay yep I was totally wrong. I just sat and worked it out on the laptop I apologise to those and concede defeat now you can all go and **** yourselves

Apart from you telling me I was talking shite it was, at least, conducted in reasonably good spirit, and I'll take you last comment as good-natured banter. Is it true that the odds of Palace staying up this season are actually greater than winning the lottery if you buy 16 tickets, none of which has the same 6 numbers as any of the other 15?

 

[symyjym]

Ok, correct me if I am wrong;

Asuming 14m lottery tickets are bought and I buy one of them the odds are 14m/1, but if I bought another ticket, making the total tickets sales 14,000001, my odds of winning would be 14,000001/1.

 

[nwgull]

You have 2 chances each at 14 million to 1. That is the same as 1 chance at 7 million to 1. If you don't believe me ask your maths teacher when you go back to school tomorrow.

It was burnt down.

 

[EDS]

Apart from you telling me I was talking shite it was, at least, conducted in reasonably good spirit, and I'll take you last comment as good-natured banter. Is it true that the odds of Palace staying up this season are actually greater than winning the lottery if you buy 16 tickets, none of which has the same 6 numbers as any of the other 15?

875000/1? I will ring my accountant and get back to you
Then again he is an Arsenal fan who has never been to a game and cannot even name the a starting 11 he is good at maths though

 

[EDS]

Ok, correct me if I am wrong;

Asuming 14m lottery tickets are bought and I buy one of them the odds are 14m/1, but if I bought another ticket, making the total tickets sales 14,000001, my odds of winning would be 14,000001/1.

What a thicko

 

[Buzzer]

Once a zero has been spun, the chance that the other 36 numbers will come in 36 spins is 1 in 760 trillion (US trillions). Given the number of roulette wheels that have been spun around the world every day for decades, the chances are that it has happened.

Well, 1 in 766,879,127,067,901, but a good point well made.

Sounds a lot more probable than that, but maths is maths.

If it's 766,897,127,067,901 / 1 then I do wonder if that has come up yet. I've just been playing around here with these figures. Huge disclaimer: the following is a very unscientific calculation:

A roulette wheel takes around 12-15 seconds to spin. Given that there's bets before and sorting out after then let's say 1 spin a minute or 60 an hour.

Therefore it would take 766897127067901/60 hours for this combination to occur with one table

= 12,781,318,784,465 hours

= 532,554,949,353 days

= 1,458,055,987 years for one table to achieve that combination.

If there are 10 million roulette tables in the world (no idea the real number and this seems extremely high but let's stick with this) then it would take 146 years for 10 million tables spinning all day every day for this one combination to occur just once - statistically. I think in reality it probably takes around a minute and a half for one spin and there are probably less than 10 million roulette tables in the world and they are not in perpetual use. If you adjust the figures to 1.5 mins per spin and 5 million roulette tables then the figure rockets to 437 years before this one occurrence - statistically.

Have I got my maths right there?

 

[sparkie]

Ok, correct me if I am wrong;

Asuming 14m lottery tickets are bought and I buy one of them the odds are 14m/1, but if I bought another ticket, making the total tickets sales 14,000001, my odds of winning would be 14,000001/1.

No, because this is the lottery, not a 14,000,001 ticket raffle with one winner.

 

[symyjym]

What a thicko

No I don't do the lottery, and I briefly thought about it in a raffle sense without really thinking about it. It doesn't make me a thicko unless you want to take my one comment to boost your delusions of being a supreme being.

 

[nwgull]

If it's 766,897,127,067,901 / 1 then I do wonder if that has come up yet. I've just been playing around here with these figures. Huge disclaimer: the following is a very unscientific calculation:

A roulette wheel takes around 12-15 seconds to spin. Given that there's bets before and sorting out after then let's say 1 spin a minute or 60 an hour.

Therefore it would take 766897127067901/60 hours for this combination to occur with one table

= 12,781,318,784,465 hours

= 532,554,949,353 days

= 1,458,055,987 years for one table to achieve that combination.

If there are 10 million roulette tables in the world (no idea the real number and this seems extremely high but let's stick with this) then it would take 146 years for 10 million tables spinning all day every day for this one combination to occur just once - statistically. I think in reality it probably takes around a minute and a half for one spin and there are probably less than 10 million roulette tables in the world and they are not in perpetual use. If you adjust the figures to 1.5 mins per spin and 5 million roulette tables then the figure rockets to 437 years before this one occurrence - statistically.

Have I got my maths right there?

Your maths is correct, and when broken down like that it does seem less likely than I first thought.

 

[EDS]

No I don't do the lottery, and I briefly thought about it in a raffle sense without really thinking about it. It doesn't make me a thicko unless you want to take my one comment to boost your delusions of being a supreme being.

I was actually being ironic and taking the pish out of myself, if you read the thread you will see I have been totally wrong on everything, well apart from Justice talking crap

 

[El Presidente]

now you can all go and **** yourselves

I don't think there's a high probability of that happening x

 

[Moshe Gariani]

There is a system based on the fact that numbers 0-36 never in reality come out in 37 consecutive spins, therefore numbers will double up. I'd assume you would have to be mathematically nimble and have deep pockets for a small return.

Yes, I agree that does sound even more dangerously full of bunkum than the basic Martingale.

It brings to mind a classic Alan Partridge on the radio sketch...

"Alan takes on a professional US gambler Jack ‘The Black’ Calson and goes on to reveal his secret formula for winning at roulette: if you toss a coin and it lands on heads, then the next time you toss it, it must land on tails. It’s a concept that Jack laughs at, goading Alan into a bet that sees him gamble away his maroon Ford Granada and his wife’s Nissan Micra..."

 

[symyjym]

I was actually being ironic and taking the pish out of myself, if you read the thread you will see I have been totally wrong on everything, well apart from Justice talking crap

Fair enough, as you can tell I haven't really paid much attention to the thread detail apart from Justice saying that he had a winning system on the wheel.

 

[nail-Z]

If it's 766,897,127,067,901 / 1 then I do wonder if that has come up yet. I've just been playing around here with these figures. Huge disclaimer: the following is a very unscientific calculation:

A roulette wheel takes around 12-15 seconds to spin. Given that there's bets before and sorting out after then let's say 1 spin a minute or 60 an hour.

Therefore it would take 766897127067901/60 hours for this combination to occur with one table

= 12,781,318,784,465 hours

= 532,554,949,353 days

= 1,458,055,987 years for one table to achieve that combination.

If there are 10 million roulette tables in the world (no idea the real number and this seems extremely high but let's stick with this) then it would take 146 years for 10 million tables spinning all day every day for this one combination to occur just once - statistically. I think in reality it probably takes around a minute and a half for one spin and there are probably less than 10 million roulette tables in the world and they are not in perpetual use. If you adjust the figures to 1.5 mins per spin and 5 million roulette tables then the figure rockets to 437 years before this one occurrence - statistically.

Have I got my maths right there?

These are the sort of facts that Johhny Ball used to tell us on a weekday afternoon. That's why kids these days can't do maths.

Time to bring back THINK OF A NUMBER!

 

[EDS]

I don't think there's a high probability of that happening x

Genuinely sorry to hear that EP, have you considered the little blue pill?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Ok, correct me if I am wrong;

Asuming 14m lottery tickets are bought and I buy one of them the odds are 14m/1, but if I bought another ticket, making the total tickets sales 14,000001, my odds of winning would be 14,000001/1.

No, because the odds of 14m/1 are not a case of 1 chance in 14m entries. If they were, then your suggestion would be correct. In this case the 14m/1 refers to the number of possible combinations of numbers. However many tickets you buy, there are only ever going to be 14m possible combinations.

 

[symyjym]

No, because the odds of 14m/1 are not a case of 1 chance in 14m entries. If they were, then your suggestion would be correct. In this case the 14m/1 refers to the number of possible combinations of numbers. However many tickets you buy, there are only ever going to be 14m possible combinations.

Yeah thanks, I have been notified that the lottery isn't a raffle and I made the comment without thinking about it

 

[Justice]

I was actually being ironic and taking the pish out of myself, if you read the thread you will see I have been totally wrong on everything, well apart from Justice talking crap

Please explain how you know me to come out with that statement? some small minded people on here.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

Please explain how you know me to come out with that statement? some small minded people on here.

Why does he need to know you to assert that you have talked some crap in this thread (which you have)...?