My mistake, still probably better buisness than paying a fee for Monakana who can't get a starting place in Crawley's or Aberdeen's starting 11!
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My mistake, still probably better buisness than paying a fee for Monakana who can't get a starting place in Crawley's or Aberdeen's starting 11!
BensGrandad
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18 months ago JFC couldnt get in the Oxford team, look now.
janee
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Burn somebody..anybody......pitchfork!
Yes because my whole raison d'etre revolves around paying two lots of too much money to indulge in a form of entertainment where the main protagonists are provided by someone I despise and I do it just so I can have a good old moan, which I love. Not because we're sleepwalking towards a division where our choices would be split between being totally effing screwed and asking our benefactor to dig even further in to his pockets just to stop the club from dying on its arse. I'm not moaning because I dislike Bloom or Burke. I'm moaning because relegation would be a financial omnishambles for this football club given the current commercial activities and business plan.
The recruiting department can have credit for Lingard, Upson, TK, Stockdale (who I maintain will come good), Orlandi, Spanish Dave and Ulloa. Happily. It means that they have to take responsibility for Obika, Lita, Rodriguez, Dobbie, O'Grady Toko and Agustien. Teixeira meanwhile would NOT be here unless Hyypia was manger.
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I see what you're saying. Give him till May and then he will be able to select his own players.
I see what you're saying. Give him till May and then he will be able to select his own players.
? He played regularly for Oxford as far as I can remember.
No, no, you must be mistaken. BG has a perfect memory. For a mental old person.
And while we're at it Andrews was shit as well.
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This is the issue I have with your position, GB: the original passage you wrote which I have quoted above included Harley. You then removed him (presumably because you saw me point out elsewhere that he was signed before Burke arrived, and therefore it didn't suit your argument). You also list Rodriguez; this is the Rodriguez that Tony Bloom commented "..one of Oscar's main targets.." (listen for yourself, it is the video on Player from about 6 months ago called "Bloom discusses Oscar resignation", about 10mins 50secs in).
There is absolutely no evidence that Hyypia decided in isolation that he wanted Teixeira; in fact, because we know that he was never responsible for recruitment at Leverkusen, and given the comment about seeing the reports that I quoted before, there is ample reason to believe that Teixeira came up as a result of discussions between Hyypia and Burke. I'm sure that, once he had been identified as a potential target, Hyypia's Liverpool contacts proved decisive in securing the deal, but that is beside the point.
Neither you, nor I, know the exact details about how ANY of our signings come about. But given everything that has been reported about our process, I find it impossible to place the blame squarely at the feet of Burke and his cohorts. EVERY signing that has happened over the last couple of years will almost certainly have had an input from the recruitment department, and WITHOUT FAIL EVERY signing will have been green-lighted by the manager.
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Chopping and changing managers so often, it is also useful to have someone who knows a great deal about the players from youth right up to senior. Isn't that also part of Burke's remit?
It's 'racism'. Are you foreign ?
Didn't we bring some of these in before Sami started but after OG had left ? (Sorry can't be arsed to check specific timing)
BensGrandad
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He signed a 6 month loan deal in July 2012 and returned to us in January 2013 having played 16 games out of the 29 they played which is just over half 55% actually.
Blimey, that's quite some trawling hobby you've got there. I used the phrase "recruitment department". I didn't mention David Burke by name at all. I removed Harley because he wasn't contemporary to the others and also tidied up some spelling. Was there not a "recruitment department" before David Burke arrived? I must add creating it to his list of achievements.
But I didn't say that either. I said he wouldn't be here unless Hyypia was manager. That's true.
Neither do I. Read my blog https://brightononlyathome.wordpress.com/ (+14k individual hits and counting) and you'll see where I stand.
ewe2
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Yes...that's 2 more !
100% agreed, as I've said I don't moan for the sake of it but you seriously have to seriously question our recruitment recently. Of course you have to take the rough with the smooth when signing players but I think it's clear to everyone that our squad has got considerably weaker this season. The playing budget has probably decreased since these financial fair play rules have come into effect recently, but we still must have one of the highest turnovers in the division and sold Ulloa for £8m. We seem to be getting mixed messages from the club, on one hand our Chairman thinks our squad should be 'challenging for the play offs' on the other Hyypia seems to keep implying we need to invest on the squad. Either way the implication is the recruiting team and Burke haven't been doing their job well.
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I guess it depends on your budget. How many decent strikers are available on loan or for a 'cheap' fee?
Lita had pedigree, but he's clearly one of those with no drive - a cheap risk?
Obika seems to score for Britain in uncompetitive games - a cheap risk?
O'Grady - a decent sum of goals for a relegated team.
Strikers are ridiculously expensive. Are we just priced out of the market? I'm sure Burke would say 'Sign Austin, he scores'.
And you are aware he was out injured for a period of time? Not to mention probably being eased in due to lack of any sort of first team experience?